Very succinct and interesting post Bear.
Originally Posted by HungryBear
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The clubface is NEVER aligned to the line, the ball never travels on the line and it changes with ball placement and club length etc. So, Yes down out and forward is ok by itself. Just my perspective, but if someone uses the line for their swing that is ok, I guess.
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-Yes you are correct in a general sense but 2-J-3 B does describe such a procedure , albeit its somewhat of a rarity IMO. Namely the
straight line Angle of Approach
Delivery Line. . Delivery Line meaning club
head line of flight as seen from the golfers perspective. A procedure where the clubhead while travelling the circular orbit appears to also cover the straght line Angle of Approach. Note the "appears".
With an associated straight line clubhead blur, from the players perspective. Something the player could use to monitor his on plane motion , a visual companion to Tracing .
This straight line Delivery LIne (which will appeal to people who wish to to Steer) requires an unusually high plane angle, geometrically. One that planes the circular orbit to the players eyes. Only then will the geometric straight line Angle of Approach (the line drawn on the circle) and the club heads circular orbit (the delivery line) appear as one , to the golfer from his perspective, only. This is geometry more than golf here IMO. A geometric anomaly IMO. A manner in which you could Steer a straight line delivery line and still comply with the circular orbit . A concept you would not arrive at when looking at things from any other perspective than the players. Or for that matter from any other means of investigation other than geometry of the circle.
Put geometrically: "Under what conditions would a cord appear to lie on the same line as the circle?" Answer: When the circle is seen on edge to the point of view.
Getting to your point, (we've dealt with clubhead above) the clubface and the clubhead and the line of flight of the ball could theoretically be aligned to the Angle Of Approach. That'd be a straight push shot out to the right along the true geometric Angle of Approach assuming a ball played back of low point with its associated
arbitrarily out to the right plane line. To hit a ball along a cord interior to this circle, along a target line left of the plane line, you'd need to Rotate the Grip square to your desired start line , the balls initial line of flight. Its a draw shot set up but mitigated by the extremely upright nature of the plane angle. This whole 2-J-3 B thing when complied with geometrically , IMO requires an usual sort of golf swing But it can be done.
-Yes the line changes with ball placement. Its runs from impact to low point. Which logically means that a ball placed at low point would have an Angle of Approach that did not point to the right . This relates to Homers use of the "arbitrarily" in 2-J-3 B , well IMO.
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How about using the #3pp? The rffw on the plane? That means the right elbow?
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Im not saying that other similarly named "Angle of Approach" procedures , the right arms Angle of Approach, the Hitters cross line Thrust etc are invalid or anything , they aren't!!! But those procedures arent Delivery LIne club HEAD procedures specifically. The Right Arm's , the #3pp's , The Right Elbow's Angle of Approach is not the Clubhead's Angle of Approach. 2-J-3 B relates to Delivery LIne (club head) not Delivery Path (Hands)! These various procedures may be associated , related to the true geometric Angle of Approach the cord on the circle but they are not the same definitionally. Nor do they travel the same path towards impact. The hand is not the elbow is not the club head.
If you thrust straight line , cross line , down and out until both arms straight per 1-L? and employ a plane angle which is lower than your eye line you will see a curved clubhead (Delivery LIne) blur! You will see the Arc not the Angle's blur. Others may have said otherwise , but we are assuming the clubhead rides the circular orbit at all times as it is assumed in our model, as it must in real life. There are no flat spots ! Thrust is straight line the circular orbit is not, the delivery line as seen by the player is not, with this one exception.
If you play the ball at low point , by definition the Angle Of Approach will not point out to the right , but the direction of Thrust is still down and out all the way to both arms straight ( the club not crossing over into an inside out stroke).
Direction of Thrust is all important , it is related to but not one and the same as a Delivery LIne of the clubhead.
This is sticky business, Homers writing style didnt help matters.