#6 01-30-2005, 02:00 PM MizunoJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 719 EC, It's my interpretation of TGM that overlapping gives added thrust as an EFFECT. For example, in a pure swing, how would you add "thrust" other than simply overlapping accumulators? Maybe you're thinking that overlapping is only a Hitting Procedure? MizunoJoe View Public Profile Send a private message to MizunoJoe Find all posts by MizunoJoe