Accumulator #3

[drewitgolf]

Look at a player at address down the target line, there is usually an angle between the left arm and clubshaft. Although the left wrist is in the Level condition (4-B-1 & 2-J-1), the club is usually on an angle to the left hand (under the heel of the hand). If that angle does do exist (all in one line) it is zeroed out. You can also get the same condition by having the left wrist fully uncocked condition, no angle.

[wanole]

gotcha..thanks

So, less angle you have less flail giving you less power?

[drewitgolf]

Don't mix up #2 (Wrist Motion) and #3 Accumulators (Hand Motion) per 4-D-0. The #3 should never be "out of line", instead it seeks to maintain its radial alignment with the Left Arm and Left Wrist vertical to its associated plane.

[tongzilla]

Wanole:

Accumulator #3 is probably one of the more confusing Accumulators. That's how I find it anyway. Probably because it's interrelated with so many other things.

I prefer to view it as the angle formed between Clubshaft and Left Arm when the Wrist is Level as drewitgolf said earlier. There can only be an angle formed if you put the grip under your heel pad. If it goes in the thumb pad (e.g. in putting), then there won't be an angle when your Wrist is Level.
The confusing bit is that if your Left wrist is Cocked (i.e. Accumulator #2), that also counts as accumulator #3 even though you may initially have zero Clubshaft/Left Arm angle when your Left Wrist was Level.

In case you were wondering what "maintaining its radial alignment" means, it's basically about keeping a Flat Left Wrist, so the Clubshaft and Left Arm forms a straight line when you're looking perpendicular at it (but not if you're looking sideways because of the Acc #3 angle). So in that sense, it's never "out-of-line", but in-line.

All other things being equal, more Accumulator #3 equals greater Clubhead travel distance with the same amount of Roll with your Left Wrist. This equates to more Clubhead speed. But all other things are not equal because the more Accumulator #3 you have, the sooner you have to start Uncocking your Left Wrist (releasing Accumulator #2) which prevents the Trigger Delay needed in a Snap Release.

For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:

• Rhythm
• Hinge Action
• Flat Left Wrist
• Accumulator #3
• Clubhead Travel
• Left Wrist Roll/Motion
• Lag Loading

The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.

[neil]

If you choke down on the grip with your left hand with the grip in the cup of your hand and keep the butt of the grip against the underneath of your left forearm the " ULNA "your left wrist will be level or if you take your normal grip(under the pad)and uncock your left wrist This will "zero out" acc#3.If you try hitting chip shots with both hands on the club using just acc#1 you will get the feel of acc#3(not being there!).This might sound bass ackwards but Yoda had me doing this early in my recent lesson ...quote..."we are going to hit shots with the least power first"I expected at least a chip...but I never understood acc#3!!!!!! .This also gave me my first aquaintence with......EXTENSOR ACTION!!!.This might not have been Yodas intention so early in the lesson BUT I SUSPECT IT WAS!!!

[12 piece bucket]

Wanole:

Accumulator #3 is probably one of the more confusing Accumulators. That's how I find it anyway. Probably because it's interrelated with so many other things.

I prefer to view it as the angle formed between Clubshaft and Left Arm when the Wrist is Level as drewitgolf said earlier. There can only be an angle formed if you put the grip under your heel pad. If it goes in the thumb pad (e.g. in putting), then there won't be an angle when your Wrist is Level.
The confusing bit is that if your Left wrist is Cocked (i.e. Accumulator #2), that also counts as accumulator #3 even though you may initially have zero Clubshaft/Left Arm angle when your Left Wrist was Level.

In case you were wondering what "maintaining its radial alignment" means, it's basically about keeping a Flat Left Wrist, so the Clubshaft and Left Arm forms a straight line when you're looking perpendicular at it (but not if you're looking sideways because of the Acc #3 angle). So in that sense, it's never "out-of-line", but in-line.

All other things being equal, more Accumulator #3 equals greater Clubhead travel distance with the same amount of Roll with your Left Wrist. This equates to more Clubhead speed. But all other things are not equal because the more Accumulator #3 you have, the sooner you have to start Uncocking your Left Wrist (releasing Accumulator #2) which prevents the Trigger Delay needed in a Snap Release.

For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:

• Rhythm
• Hinge Action
• Flat Left Wrist
• Accumulator #3
• Clubhead Travel
• Left Wrist Roll/Motion
• Lag Loading

The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.

Strong post! Nice job setting this up. We can definitely go deeper here.

[phillygolf]

Wanole:



For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:

• Rhythm
• Hinge Action
• Flat Left Wrist
• Accumulator #3
• Clubhead Travel
• Left Wrist Roll/Motion
• Lag Loading

The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.

Hello Tongzilla...

I'd like to check out your interrelatedness on this....I am a bit rusty (no doubt!) and am looking forward to seeing it when you have the time!!!

BTW, good post.

Patrick

[bobbyj]

This accumulator angle still confuses me. There are a number of points:-

I understand that the 3 accumulator angle does not affect the left arm flying wedge, but doesn't it affect the right arm flying wedge?
Wouldn't you need to change the plane angle to accomodate the 3 accumulator angle and maintain the right arm wedge?

Also, I don't really understand the pros and cons of incorporating this angle into any stroke - hitting or swinging. The Endless Belt Effect seems to suggest that the smaller the pulley(zero angle), the more clubhead speed generated. I think 6-B-3-A hints at the answer for hitting, but it is unclear to me. It would seem that, if swinging, there is no reason to incorporate this angle at all.


Could anyone help shed some light on any of these areas? This has me stumped.

Cheers

Bobby J

[EdZ]

This accumulator angle still confuses me. There are a number of points:-

I understand that the 3 accumulator angle does not affect the left arm flying wedge, but doesn't it affect the right arm flying wedge?
Wouldn't you need to change the plane angle to accomodate the 3 accumulator angle and maintain the right arm wedge?

Also, I don't really understand the pros and cons of incorporating this angle into any stroke - hitting or swinging. The Endless Belt Effect seems to suggest that the smaller the pulley(zero angle), the more clubhead speed generated. I think 6-B-3-A hints at the answer for hitting, but it is unclear to me. It would seem that, if swinging, there is no reason to incorporate this angle at all.


Could anyone held shed some light on any of these areas? This has me stumped.

Cheers

Bobby J

By definition, the wedges are set with the wrists in a 'level' condition. If you have a large accumulator #3 (low hands), you will not have a proper right forearm wedge at address.