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Old 01-04-2006, 12:03 PM
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Indeed - the 'model' swinger IMO - nice contrast to Appleby

Now if he would only get his left arm flying wedge(lefty swing) more in line at setup.....................
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Old 01-04-2006, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mb6606
Indeed - the 'model' swinger IMO - nice contrast to Appleby

Now if he would only get his left arm flying wedge(lefty swing) more in line at setup.....................
EXACTLY! Appleby has "pure" alignments.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:06 PM
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The Left Hander's Flying Wedges
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Now if he would only get his left arm flying wedge (lefty swing) more in line at setup.....................
For the 'lefty' that would be the Left Forearm Flying Wedge.

Remember, the Left Hander's entire Right Arm lies within the plane of the perpendicular Right Wristcock Motion. Hence, the Right Arm Flying Wedge. However, only the Left Forearm -- not the upper Left Arm -- lies in the plane of the Clubshaft / Sweetspot. Hence, the Left Forearm Flying Wedge.

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Old 01-04-2006, 06:43 PM
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Indeed - the 'model' swinger IMO - nice contrast to Appleby

Now if he would only get his left arm flying wedge(lefty swing) more in line at setup.....................
And there you have an interesting observation.

For Wier, who is a true swinger, there is not really a 'significant' issue with the trail arm wedge not being set properly at address, because he, like a good true swinger, does not 'add' through impact. Meaining he is all 'lead wedge' (in his case, right wedge).

This, in contrast to Tiger, who despite his attempts at becoming a true swinger, still has the urge of the hitter, to add right (trail) arm at impact - hence the fact that his trail arm wedge is off at address IS a big problem.

If anyone has access to shot link patterns for Weir, I'd suspect that his misses, especially under pressure, are to the left.


In either case, yes, both of them would, in the long run, be best served by correcting this issue at address.
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Old 01-04-2006, 07:32 PM
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Weir does not set up as with the left forearm in line with the shaft. At impact it is inline. Does he not have to make some sort of club face manipulation to be correct at impact?
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:12 PM
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Lengthening the 'Trail' Arm Through Impact
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Weir does not set up as with the left forearm in line with the shaft. At impact it is inline. Does he not have to make some sort of club face manipulation to be correct at impact?
It is Axis Tilt (accomplished with Hip Slide in the Start Down) -- not Clubface Manipulation -- that brings the 'Trail' Shoulder down and On Plane. In turn, it is this On Plane Trail Shoulder that gives the player sufficient 'Trail' Arm, i.e., Elbow Bend, to manifest an On Plane Trail Forearm at Impact. So, for the Trail Arm to be On Plane at Address, there must be Axis Tilt. In his book, Power Golf, Ben Hogan had this to say:

"At the address there is no straightening of the right elbow. In order that the right arm will be limp and the right elbow down, one must list slightly from the right side. By list I meant that the right shoulder must be dropped and the hips faced slightly to the left."

We are saying the same thing: In order that there be sufficient Elbow Bend for an On Plane Trail Forearm, the Shoulder must be down and back (On Plane). And that is a function of the Hip Turn (assuming a Slide and its Weight Shift). That is why you see all good players with their trail Forearms On Plane through Impact, even though those same Forearms may not have been On Plane at Address.

By the way, isn't is nice that we have a TGM language where everybody understands that Right Forearm means 'trail' Forearm?

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Where are the pictures?
Did something happen to the pictures, or is it my computer?
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Did something happen to the pictures, or is it my computer?
Here you go...
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Originally Posted by Yoda

By the way, isn't is nice that we have a TGM language where everybody understands that Right Forearm means 'trail' Forearm?
You didnt. Did you?

You KILLED me for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank God lefty stayed the course!!!!!
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:29 AM
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I respectfully must disagree with most of this thread. Not to create any issues, but in my humble opinion....Appleby is a swinger. I will take a few days to show my point - and to make sure no one takes this the wrong way...it is not driven by ego, rather, by what is hitting/swinging...

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