Distance with hitting

[Delaware Golf]

I truly recommend that you guys put some time in on the Tomasello tapes...

DG

[comdpa]

I truly recommend that you guys put some time in on the Tomasello tapes...

DG

Delaware Golf...

I have been doing that..."down and out on the inclined plane." That is some seriously good stuff!

[Delaware Golf]

Delaware Golf...

I have been doing that..."down and out on the inclined plane." That is some seriously good stuff!

Great Comdpa,

Just a reminder from the letter series videos...Tommy said...start with the chips and pitches (with the right forearm) and slowly work it up to a full swing. Definitely use the chapter 12-5 basic motion, acquired motion, and Total Motion approach.

With some good practice time, the forearm muscles will strengthen and this version of swinging and/or hitting will become second nature.

DG

[comdpa]

Great Compa,

Just a reminder from the letter series videos...Tommy said...start with the chips and pitches (with the right forearm) and slowly work it up to a full swing. Definitely use the chapter 12-5 basic motion, acquired motion, and Total Motion approach.

With some good practice time, the forearm muscles will strengthen and this version of swinging and/or hitting will become second nature.

DG

DG,

I personally do not think that this is another "version of swinging and/or hitting".

To me, this is TGM personified, as Tommy speaks of using the hands and then let the body follow.

Sounds like a Hand Controlled Pivot Procedure to me. I am referencing the 2nd part of the Tomasello Letters on LBG.

[Delaware Golf]

DG,

I personally do not think that this is another "version of swinging and/or hitting".

To me, this is TGM personified, as Tommy speaks of using the hands and then let the body follow.

Sounds like a Hand Controlled Pivot Procedure to me. I am referencing the 2nd part of the Tomasello Letters on LBG.

Comdpa,

Just remember Tommy is not applying direct force with his hands. See section 5-0...where Homer makes the comment, "Learn to SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS....". See 10-11-0-1 and 10-11-0-3 and key in on the word "passive" and/or "passively" while commenting about the use of the right arm for swinging or the right arm swing.

DG

[comdpa]

Comdpa,

Just remember Tommy is not applying direct force with his hands. See section 5-0...where Homer makes the comment, "Learn to SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS....". See 10-11-0-1 and 10-11-0-3 and key in on the word "passive" and/or "passively" while commenting about the use of the right arm for swinging or the right arm swing.

DG

Thanks for the reminder buddy...

I like to think of it as "the intent to uncock the club down
and out on plane" causes the body and thus the hands to react correctly" - in exact accordance with 5-0.

[davel]

Great Comdpa,

Just a reminder from the letter series videos...Tommy said...start with the chips and pitches (with the right forearm) and slowly work it up to a full swing. Definitely use the chapter 12-5 basic motion, acquired motion, and Total Motion approach.

With some good practice time, the forearm muscles will strengthen and this version of swinging and/or hitting will become second nature.

DG

DG

I have looked at Tomasello videos per your suggestion and the down and out could be significant to what I could be doing wrong. I still am a little confused in that with the backswing swivel he describes what I believe is swinging yet the right arm participation sounds like hitting. The other area I have not understood was in the australian tapes he indicated strength was needed for hitting yet after his other video I am wondering why are the strength requirements at all different between hitting and swinging? YodaLuke never felt strength was a requirement when I talked to him.

Dave

[comdpa]

DG

I have looked at Tomasello videos per your suggestion and the down and out could be significant to what I could be doing wrong. I still am a little confused in that with the backswing swivel he describes what I believe is swinging yet the right arm participation sounds like hitting. The other area I have not understood was in the australian tapes he indicated strength was needed for hitting yet after his other video I am wondering why are the strength requirements at all different between hitting and swinging? YodaLuke never felt strength was a requirement when I talked to him.

Dave

Dave,

Tommy did not mean strength to be a "He-Man" type of strength.

He was merely differentiating the use of muscular thrust (right triceps) to drive the club in hitting with the use of centrifugal force to throw the club out in swinging.

[Delaware Golf]

DG

I have looked at Tomasello videos per your suggestion and the down and out could be significant to what I could be doing wrong. I still am a little confused in that with the backswing swivel he describes what I believe is swinging yet the right arm participation sounds like hitting. The other area I have not understood was in the australian tapes he indicated strength was needed for hitting yet after his other video I am wondering why are the strength requirements at all different between hitting and swinging? YodaLuke never felt strength was a requirement when I talked to him.

Dave

Dave

Backswing swivel in the video per the 1 to 2 position in the slow motion sequence....it's a drill. However, at normal speed, Tommy is performing a Full Sweep Load....for swinging...as Tommy is starting the backswing with his right forearm, he is also folding his right elbow at the same time. The action that turns the left wrist is the action of shoulder rotation. It's a natural move...on the other hand, for hitting, Tommy is also starting back with his right forearm and folding (cocking) his right elbow but he is resisting the turning action of the left wrist per 7-19-1 which reads..."by resisting the Backstroke motion for Drive Loading"....that action is created with a punch basic right arm motion and the realization that the left wrist must not turn in this case. So, for swinging it's a natural move…for hitting is a manipulative move.

As far as strength is concerned, yes, you need a degree of strength for both hitting and swinging. I'm not talking about heavy lifting strength...my reference to strength is more in regards to repetitive strength and/or endurance versus the ability to lift heavy weights. Consistency on shot after shot takes repetitive strength.... conditioning per the stroke pattern you’re employing.

DG

[tball88]

I have tried and tried to swing and get the distance that I can get hitting and have not had any luck. I really believe in what Homer said, if quick swing, if strong hit. Each person's individual genetics and characteristics play the dominent role on what way a person will be able to swing the club with the most authority. I also have learned from experience that while it's nice to try to learn both, I think each person has a natural tendency. That first time you ever picked up a club did you push it or pull it... That's usually the answer to how you should play..