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Old 04-13-2006, 08:00 PM
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Old 04-13-2006, 08:39 PM
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Please realize that Hardy's "concept of plane" really has no basis on ANY KIND OF SHAFT PLANE ANYWHERE.

He's simply describing too different "patterns" as we say in TGM (ways to swing a club)

The single plane idea is simply:
-more bent over
-stand further away from it

this will cause you to have a rounder/flatter swing that if you do as he says puts you UNDER PLANE at the top of the swing. The only way to find the plane properly on the downswing is to STEEPEN your swing and swing outside in. That's why you see Olin Browne practicing that routine so much and also why he mainly hits the fade.

The two plane idea is one where:
-you stand closer
-you stand more upright

this basically makes your swing more vertical and upright and imo easier to find the REAL plane.

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IMO, don't worrk about 1 or 2 plane just simply SWING ON PLANE.

Homer said it best, all you need is a:

1) flat left wrist
2) swing on plane (trace a straight plane line)
3) have lag

Can't do much wrong if you do all 3 above
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
Please realize that Hardy's "concept of plane" really has no basis on ANY KIND OF SHAFT PLANE ANYWHERE.

He's simply describing too different "patterns" as we say in TGM (ways to swing a club)

The single plane idea is simply:
-more bent over
-stand further away from it

this will cause you to have a rounder/flatter swing that if you do as he says puts you UNDER PLANE at the top of the swing. The only way to find the plane properly on the downswing is to STEEPEN your swing and swing outside in. That's why you see Olin Browne practicing that routine so much and also why he mainly hits the fade.

The two plane idea is one where:
-you stand closer
-you stand more upright

this basically makes your swing more vertical and upright and imo easier to find the REAL plane.

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IMO, don't worrk about 1 or 2 plane just simply SWING ON PLANE.

Homer said it best, all you need is a:

1) flat left wrist
2) swing on plane (trace a straight plane line)
3) have lag

Can't do much wrong if you do all 3 above
Please excuse my beginner question, but what do you mean by the "real plane"?
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:12 PM
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Please excuse my beginner question, but what do you mean by the "real plane"?
If you ever picked up Hogans Five Lessons, he introduced the concept to the masses, that the golfswing is performed on a geometric inclined plane. Actually it was introduced prior to Hogan, but probably didn't hit mainstream consciousness until then.

Hardy has unfortunately introduced a great deal of confusion regarding terminology.

In TGM swinging the clubshaft on the inclined plane without deviation, is one of the three basic imperatives in making a sound golfstroke. From putt to drive.

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
If you ever picked up Hogans Five Lessons, he introduced the concept to the masses, that the golfswing is performed on a geometric inclined plane. Actually it was introduced prior to Hogan, but probably didn't hit mainstream consciousness until then.

Hardy has unfortunately introduced a great deal of confusion regarding terminology.

In TGM, swinging the clubshaft on the inclined plane without deviation, is one of the three basic imperatives in making a sound golfstroke. From putt to drive.

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Can you point me in the direction of any diagrams illustrating the proper inclined plane?

Additionally, where can I purchase a copy of TGM? I have checked amazon but it appears as though they no longer carry it and you have to buy through a reseller.
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