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Old 05-30-2006, 12:09 AM
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There are "HAND MANIPULATION SWINGERS", and "TRUE SWINGERS".

TRUE SWINGERS NEED TO HAVE A VERY PRECISE BALL POSITION. THE SQUARING OF THE CLUB TAKES CARE OF ITSELF.

HAND MANIPULATION SWINGERS, LEARN TO PROGRAM IN THEIR HINGE ACTION, WHICH SQUARES THE CLUB.

Both of these guys are SWINGERS... but they also have subtle differences.

Mr. Yoda had a post about this sometime back.
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:29 AM
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How I look at the picture is:

Swingers - Let it happen -- Centrifugal force Squaring
Hitters - Make it happen -- Right forearm thrust

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Old 06-03-2006, 03:44 AM
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Swingers really have to control that clubface as it whirls out. As your release swivel goes into its hinge action, it is too easy to over roll or under roll unless monitored. You have to know where you are going to be at impact.....

Johnny Miller on a show I watched via streaming the golf channel, said Jack Nicklaus pulled him aside and asked him what he was working on when he was at the top of his game and he told him he concentrated on his hands and how they were positioned at impact and how he didn't want them here 'turned' or there 'rolled' but just here - and he showed some beautiful flying wedges with the hands vertical to the ground.

Homer Kelley wrote somewhere in the book (roughly paraphrasing) - Program the intended impact hand location no later than the top and concentrate on that and not the means of getting there...

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Old 06-04-2006, 06:09 PM
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With the start up swivel of swinging should the toe of the club be pointing up at waist high or should it be actually lying on the plane by then, actually tilted more toe back? Just trying to get it correct since I am new to Swinging.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:35 AM
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OK, help me.
1. Can anyone show me where, in the book, the terminology 'start up swivel' is used???

If not, then please, lets not use it. Of course, it may be used, hence, my request for a reference.

2. By swinger, lets define.

True swinger - centrifugal force rules, including the squaring of the clubface.

'Swinger' - utilizes centrifugal force for power (loading, etc) but not necessarily alignment of the clubface, and in this case, adjustments may need to be made.

And again, start up swivel please.....

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Old 06-08-2006, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
1. Can anyone show me where, in the book, the terminology 'start up swivel' is used???

If not, then please, lets not use it. Of course, it may be used, hence, my request for a reference.

2. By swinger, lets define.

True swinger - centrifugal force rules, including the squaring of the clubface.

'Swinger' - utilizes centrifugal force for power (loading, etc) but not necessarily alignment of the clubface, and in this case, adjustments may need to be made.

And again, start up swivel please.....

Great post, I'm foggy here as well (as others). I just finished the book and don't recall the start-up swivel. I posted a question in another thread on this subject. The nearest I could find to this idea was "fanning " of the forearm during start up. In my attempt to use the RFT I find that the face stays closed.

I think the question posed earlier might best solve the problem: What position does the face take with the shaft at horizontal, leading edge vertical to ground or is it parallel to (laying on)the inclined plane?

The answer could determine how much forearm rotation is needed during start up.

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Old 06-09-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
1. Can anyone show me where, in the book, the terminology 'start up swivel' is used???

If not, then please, lets not use it. Of course, it may be used, hence, my request for a reference.

2. By swinger, lets define.

True swinger - centrifugal force rules, including the squaring of the clubface.

'Swinger' - utilizes centrifugal force for power (loading, etc) but not necessarily alignment of the clubface, and in this case, adjustments may need to be made.

And again, start up swivel please.....

Did a search and could not find 'Start up Swivel' As far as "adjustments may need to be made" are you refering to 2-F. "When in doubt, “Turn” the Clubface so both the Clubshaft and the Sweet Spot will be on the same Plane at the Start Down. Both Planes always pass through the Lag Pressure Point"?
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:40 PM
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'Start up Swivel'
Maybe the answer is in 6-B-3-0-1 THE FLYING WEDGES.
"The precision flying wedges assembly and alignment ... is mandatory during the entire motion."
Keeping the right forearm plane doesn't the swivel just happen?

On another note since the precision Flying Wedges is mandatory why doesn't it put them on par with the 3 imperatives?
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