A Challenge to AI's and Teachers: The Grasshopper, The Jedi and The PLAN

[Stickner]

D,

You are in fact one of the very very very few that have the unique qualifications to answer the call to my challenge. I think there are only a few that I would entrust to write a guide or produce a video to guide a player's improvement. The qualifications would be a blend of a pre-requisite amount of G.O.L.F. knowledge, lesson tee experience, playing experience and ability to communicate effectively. I have seen you in action and you got the goods.

I think a lot of pro's feel like to be successful they have to have a Tour Player in there stable. This may be so for marketing purposes. But I think the real area for a teacher to achieve prominence is with the "average" player. Tour Players well they are . . . Tour Players. They generally got it figured out. The "average" dude is struggling. But the nice thing about the "average" dude is there are a lot of 'em. If somebody could come up with a boilerplate on how to go about reducing your handicap by 30%, you'd be rich.

The golf book/video that needs to be produced in my opinion is this. The Makeover of Average Joe.

Chapter 1. What kind of "Average" Joe are you? Base it on current handicap, handicap goal, competitive goals, amount of time to devote to practice

Chapter 2. Where are your CURRENT strengths and weaknesses Give people quantifiable tests to determine their handicaps in different facits of the game. I go to this website where the do this my long game handicap is 3 short game is 11 and putting is a whopping 24. Yikes!!! So where do you reckon I need to spend my time.

Chapter 3. Defining your Roadmap Have different Goal schemes for each "Average" Joe type. I would base it on Time and Target Handicap/Competitive goal. So maybe one Joe wants to win his flight or another wants to win the State Am whatever. And then say with your X number of practice/playing hours per week here's how to organize your practice. And if that means taking lessons for 10 minutes 3 times a week so be it. Give stories on people who have broken out of a plateau and how the did it and how long it took.


Chapter 4. Fundamentals Here we teach the Imperatives Wedges etc. I would use some David Orr pics with Tour Player's along side Hacks and point out the differences.

Chapter 5. How to stop thinking Average and start thinking like a Champion I've never done anything so I got nothing here.

Chapter 6 How and What to Practice Breakdown how to organize Practice Time. How to Translate Precision Mechanics to FEEL. How to PRACTICE TO SCORE!!!


That's what I got. But I think a lot of people have the desire to get better but do they have the impetus to act? Debatable. I think if people can get the best information (which we got) and develop a Long Range Plan with intermediate goals to check off and away to practice effectively they can get better.

Hell maybe this doesn't need to be a book or video. It could be even better on the web where people could send in video of their motion. You could get a 10 minute lesson 3 times a week on the web without having to drive 2 hours to do it.

This is one thing that is extremely dissapointing to me about the current onwers of The Golfing Machine. Anybody could have just published the changes as Mr. K saw fit. But who's gonna pick up the ball and run with it? I talked to them on the phone about what's next. I got the impression that they didn't know. They were very nice. But I get the impression that a vision is lacking. I wish them the best. Therer are a lot of tools available now the Mr. K was not fortunate enough to have at his disposal.

The message needs to get out. The Yellow Book was way ahead of it's time. Now technology has caught up. Now people have chance to see the concepts demonstrated such as what's going on at LBG and orrgolf.com etc. We have the information. AI's know how to communicate the concepts. But now it's time to integrate it into a plan for people to get better. Let's get the ball in the endzone.

What is your email? I will send you my practice log that I use. It is very detailed and I keep track of precisely what I practice and how well I do each time I practice. I then enter my results into a database and I trend out how I am doing.

[12 piece bucket]

What is your email? I will send you my practice log that I use. It is very detailed and I keep track of precisely what I practice and how well I do each time I practice. I then enter my results into a database and I trend out how I am doing.

Richard@parrottinsurance.com

Thanks man!

[Stickner]

Richard@parrottinsurance.com

Thanks man!

File sent. I would post it on here for everyone to see, but I am not sure how to do that.

[12 piece bucket]

File sent. I would post it on here for everyone to see, but I am not sure how to do that.

Stickner! You are amazing! This is super stuff man! Thanks a ton.

BAM BAM!!!! You need to get with Stickner about this. It is awesome.

Stickner I'll toot your horn for you. He followed this plan and went from a 7.8 to a 2.

Way to go! Very nice contribution on your 3rd post. High quality.

[Sbark]

File sent. I would post it on here for everyone to see, but I am not sure how to do that.

send work log to me also if possible
thanks

barknoll@yahoo.com

[bambam]

Stickner, I'll PM you and we'll get this thing posted.

[Sbark]

Stickner, I'll PM you and we'll get this thing posted.

will this be posted onto this thread..... or into training aids or some other folder?

[bambam]

will this be posted onto this thread..... or into training aids or some other folder?

I posted the practice log in the training aids forum. Here's the link:

/forum/showthread.php?p=27969#post27969

[lagster]

Many good things here!

I believe many/most people are not practicing well. They may think they are, but often are not very close to doing what they want to do. They may have the correct information, but they simply are not doing what they think they are doing.

Solution... they need to be monitored while they practice. If the student gets the correct information, then is monitored, at least some, during each and every practice session... he will improve, and probably improve drastically. He won't be able to practice wrong.

Many tour players do this. Nearly every time they practice, they have their teacher, or caddie, or someone they trust watching.

If you know you have good information, but are not improving... try to figure out a way to do what I'm suggesting. Eventually, after a sound technique is learned, the player can gradually be reduced off this, until he is monitored less frequently.

[12 piece bucket]

Many good things here!

I believe many/most people are not practicing well. They may think they are, but often are not very close to doing what they want to do. They may have the correct information, but they simply are not doing what they think they are doing.

Solution... they need to be monitored while they practice. If the student gets the correct information, then is monitored, at least some, during each and every practice session... he will improve, and probably improve drastically. He won't be able to practice wrong.

Many tour players do this. Nearly every time they practice, they have their teacher, or caddie, or someone they trust watching.

If you know you have good information, but are not improving... try to figure out a way to do what I'm suggesting. Eventually, after a sound technique is learned, the player can gradually be reduced off this, until he is monitored less frequently.

I agree. I think our boy Stickner has a fantastic tool. It needs to be out here for all with his blessing of course. I think even if people are not monitored and the have an "outline" where they can measure there improvement e.g. I hit can now hit 6 out of 10 chips from 30 pace inside a 10 foot circle. They will get better. Bottom line as annikan said this game is ultimately about getting the ball in the hole.