The similarities to a cult are apparent too. It appears to have an almost mythical figurehead, devout followers, sacred text, the handshake I haven't heard of. Similar to a religion, it attempts to answer all the concievable questions one might have about the subject with an element of faith required to boot. There's a definite sense of superiority in this forum that may be well deserved, I certainly can't suggest anything that's better and it may prove to be the best eventually.
The secret handshake.... yep! I remember when it started during the St. Augustine classes. What a fun and educational time that was. It has forever affected my golf game in a very positive way.
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lol secret handshake....
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Birdie Man- I'm with you here.
No handshake secrets in my travels but for those that are looking for something more - the Golfing Machine really is the only thing that really plays in a different playground in my mind. In regards to published golf instruction- for us TGM fans- it's a desert out there and then when you do run into this thing- it's like water or a drug! The divergence is so large that it does create a passion, appreciation, fevor, call it whatever you want- so in my mind there is a real catch 22 in that regard - sharing the ideas, and the excitement without allowing yourself to turn people off or become so enamored with it that you don't look at it with a critical eye at times. That Catch 22 for TGM obsessed pupils in unrelated to the era or times- even in the early 80's you had the same issue- and I know Mr. Kelley said and "Never sell the system!"- in the sense of being to aggressive or fanatical- he knew that would only hurt the "system" and I'm sure that he believed in it enough that he knew he didn't need to - In one of the published interviews he said something to the affect that the system would sell itself (with the successes) and if it didn't then there was something wrong with it. Why would people just switch over when they been led down so many other dead ends and this is just another system.
Anyway- I'll rambling incoherently now- and covering old ground- but all of these posts here really are very spot on in regards to their criticism and also to the positive comments. Gotta get back to studying the book
I met a PGA professional today. Inevitably, The Golfing Machine was brought up. The pro said, "I don't do TGM". I asked, "why not?". He said because everyone he knew who had a TGM background taught a method. I was quite shocked to say the least. He then named a 'famous' player taught by a 'famous' TGM instructor and said he doesn't like this player's new swing. He then went on to say he doesn't like the way TGM says your elbow must stay on the plane line on the backswing.
He said he might "do TGM" in the future.
I met a PGA professional today. Inevitably, The Golfing Machine was brought up. The pro said, "I don't do TGM". I asked, "why not?". He said because everyone he knew who had a TGM background taught a method. I was quite shocked to say the least. He then named a 'famous' player taught by a 'famous' TGM instructor and said he doesn't like this player's new swing. He then went on to say he doesn't like the way TGM says your elbow must stay on the plane line on the backswing.
He said he might "do TGM" in the future.
Did you kick him in the bag?
jkjk
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Really tho....how many TGM instructors do the "method" deal? (honest question)
It doesn't mean TGM is a bad system....he prolly just doesn't understand it or know a lot about it....I'd say that would be the common reason for not liking it....I just don't know how you can't appreciate the information in this book.
And man....there's lots of PGA pros that teach methods too...
Birdie Man- I'm with you here.
No handshake secrets in my travels but for those that are looking for something more - the Golfing Machine really is the only thing that really plays in a different playground in my mind. In regards to published golf instruction- for us TGM fans- it's a desert out there and then when you do run into this thing- it's like water or a drug! The divergence is so large that it does create a passion, appreciation, fevor, call it whatever you want- so in my mind there is a real catch 22 in that regard - sharing the ideas, and the excitement without allowing yourself to turn people off or become so enamored with it that you don't look at it with a critical eye at times. That Catch 22 for TGM obsessed pupils in unrelated to the era or times- even in the early 80's you had the same issue- and I know Mr. Kelley said and "Never sell the system!"- in the sense of being to aggressive or fanatical- he knew that would only hurt the "system" and I'm sure that he believed in it enough that he knew he didn't need to - In one of the published interviews he said something to the affect that the system would sell itself (with the successes) and if it didn't then there was something wrong with it. Why would people just switch over when they been led down so many other dead ends and this is just another system.
Anyway- I'll rambling incoherently now- and covering old ground- but all of these posts here really are very spot on in regards to their criticism and also to the positive comments. Gotta get back to studying the book
Ha good post Mike.
I didn't know about that....but it really really does make sense. Everything (and as a side note TGM does now too...thank god for it...).
It's true man....it doesn't have an answer for every single thing out there.....but man it answers a lot! It means you can be confident and thorough when talking about the swing....some people could be insulted (lots of ppl complain about being "pooed" on by TGMers...some of the complaints are justified...some are out of anger or frustration), especially if you're too cocky.
Thanks for the info.
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We have a winner in one of my students Chiragh Kumar in the South India Open. I wrote about his performance in the Malaysian Ametuer at 14 under. He cleared the field by seven strokes to win hands down this time. TGM power with some
Clear Keys. W e will be hearing a lot about this guy in the future I hope? Justin (Comdpa) this ones for u.
Victory for us all.
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and covering old ground- but all of these posts here really are very spot on in regards to their criticism and also to the positive comments. Gotta get back to studying the book
jkjk
e will be hearing a lot about this guy in the future I hope?
Justin (Comdpa) this ones for u.
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