Thank you for the nice reply .. I feel so welcomed already
Mr. Yoda, I noticed you say Pull .. Not push (oooops) -.- been practicing the wrong things.
Nuke,
The Stroke you posted is a Swing, not a Hit. And the Swinger Drag Loads -- drags (pulls) the Swinging Club Down Plane -- directly toward the Plane Line. The Body pulls the Arms and the Arms pull the Hands and Club.
Mr. Yoda, I noticed you say Pull .. Not push (oooops) -.- been practicing the wrong things.
From a procedural point of view, you may find yourself hitting some disastrous shots by trying to Pull. Instead, it may be more helpful to try to spin your right shoulder down plane. The 'down' element (of the down/out/forwards movement of the right shoulder on the downstroke) is especially important for you because you need to tilt your axis more.
From a procedural point of view, you may find yourself hitting some disastrous shots by trying to Pull. Instead, it may be more helpful to try to spin your right shoulder down plane. The 'down' element (of the down/out/forwards movement of the right shoulder on the downstroke) is especially important for you because you need to tilt your axis more.
There is no question that the Pivot plays a vital role in the Lag Loading during the Start Down. Indeed, the Pivot accomplishes that Loading with no independent motion of the Arms and Hands (6-K-0). It is this sequencing that induces the Pull sensation of Drag Loading. Per 10-19-C (capitalization by Homer Kelley):
"Drag Loading is...an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise..."
I had been swinging the club at 1/2 speed and never In my life ball roll so much in the driver, since I was mostly flipping, there is too much spin on the ball. Ball striking and directions improved tremendously. However, Im still completely missing balls here and there to accustom to this completely new feeling and Mis-Sequencing)
As you said Mr. Yoda " Your game will, IMMEDIATELY, IMMEDIATELY! Go to the next level " in the swivel video. Definitely your not lying, now who can promise immediate and deliver?
Thank you... I'll hang around for good.
Thanks Tongzilla... the shoulder image definitely helps me to get that feeling .
There is no question that the Pivot plays a vital role in the Lag Loading during the Start Down. Indeed, the Pivot accomplishes that Loading with no independent motion of the Arms and Hands (6-K-0). It is this sequencing that induces the Pull sensation of Drag Loading. Per 10-19-C (capitalization by Homer Kelley):
"Drag Loading is...an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise..."
Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought that TGM advocated a Hand Controlled Pivot. Starting the downswing with the Pivot per 6-K-0 tends to throw the shoulders at the ball, and that 6-L-0 was far better as the shoulders are undisturbed by this initial move from the End. Drag Loading can still be accomplished with solely the hands and arms, and once complete, the Pivot "kicks in" to maintain balance through the remainder of the swing. That's the way I've been swinging -- and with good results may I add.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought that TGM advocated a Hand Controlled Pivot. Starting the downswing with the Pivot per 6-K-0 tends to throw the shoulders at the ball, and that 6-L-0 was far better as the shoulders are undisturbed by this initial move from the End. Drag Loading can still be accomplished with solely the hands and arms, and once complete, the Pivot "kicks in" to maintain balance through the remainder of the swing. That's the way I've been swinging -- and with good results may I add.
Hands controlled pivot does not mean hands powered pivot. In the swingers procedure, you create a pressure at pp4 against the primary lever assembly to drive it through impact - pp3 aims at the aiming point - to be able to do this you must have the right shoulder go downplane.
PP4 - pivot pressure driving against the primary lever assembly
PP3 - passively directs the lag pressure
Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought that TGM advocated a Hand Controlled Pivot. Starting the downswing with the Pivot per 6-K-0 tends to throw the shoulders at the ball, and that 6-L-0 was far better as the shoulders are undisturbed by this initial move from the End. Drag Loading can still be accomplished with solely the hands and arms, and once complete, the Pivot "kicks in" to maintain balance through the remainder of the swing.
Originally Posted by Mathew
Hands controlled pivot does not mean hands powered pivot. In the swingers procedure, you create a pressure at pp4 against the primary lever assembly to drive it through impact - pp3 aims at the aiming point - to be able to do this you must have the right shoulder go downplane.
Mathew is right on here. The Swinging Stroke is all about the transfer of Body Momentum into the Left Arm and Club. If the Hands initiate the Downstroke Sequence, then you bypass the 'massive rotor' and forfeit its Momentum. Once left behind, the Body can never catch up.
Hands controlled pivot does not mean hands powered pivot.
I didn't say that it did. In the backswing the pivot reacts to the hands and arms. It does not lead them.
10-19-C DRAG LOADING Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the "Swinger", an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release.
IMO you can get no quicker "quick Start Down" with just the hands and arms, unencumbered by the Pivot.
Originally Posted by Mathew
In the swingers procedure, you create a pressure at pp4 against the primary lever assembly to drive it through impact
Isn't that more of a Hitter's technique? The last thing I want to do is to have my shoulders rotating past square to the target line prior to impact.
Originally Posted by Mathew
pp3 aims at the aiming point - to be able to do this you must have the right shoulder go downplane.
I primarily use pp3 to sense the change of direction at the End, and attempt to maintain that feeling through Drag Loading to Release.
I didn't say that it did. In the backswing the pivot reacts to the hands and arms. It does not lead them.
10-19-C DRAG LOADING Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the "Swinger", an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release.
IMO you can get no quicker "quick Start Down" with just the hands and arms, unencumbered by the Pivot.
The primary lever assembly is driven by creating pressure against it... Theres only two places you can create pressure against the left arm - pp4 and pp1.... When the pressure is created at PP4 the flail (2-K) acts like a rope handle....
Quote:
Isn't that more of a Hitter's technique? The last thing I want to do is to have my shoulders rotating past square to the target line prior to impact.
-- and with good results may I add.
Hybrid Mode
