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Old 08-16-2006, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
The right arm is always driving to become straight. This might be what you feel.
The difference is that a Hitter drives an angle directly to the ball...
and a Swinger cranks his gyro- right shoulder- to "ignite” the blast off of the left arm, the fourth accumulator and whirls the clubhead. This arc of approach “freewheels” (a non tgm term) the Flying Wedges. Since the right half of the wedge extends to the right arm, you will feel it- it just can’t muscle and push the shaft near impact. Trust Newton and let the head whirl.

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I'm still incubating this one !I believe you must PULL if swinging?It is certainly what I am trying to do,as I tend to have a certain amount of right arm participation.The "non TGM"term is "confusing".Right shoulder gyro is also confusing-for a swinger-and ,also ,I believe,wrong.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:30 PM
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I'm still incubating this one !I believe you must PULL if swinging?It is certainly what I am trying to do,as I tend to have a certain amount of right arm participation.The "non TGM"term is "confusing".Right shoulder gyro is also confusing-for a swinger-and ,also ,I believe,wrong.
Still at work (no book) but I believe Homer and for a fact- Lynn- speak of the right shoulder acting as a Gryo to crank up the flywheel (Right arm/right side). The right shoulder is the force that blasts the left arm off the chest. Accum #4, #2 then #3 is a pulling action of monitored by pp2.

Any thoughts folks?
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:19 AM
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Still at work (no book) but I believe Homer and for a fact- Lynn- speak of the right shoulder acting as a Gryo to crank up the flywheel (Right arm/right side). The right shoulder is the force that blasts the left arm off the chest. Accum #4, #2 then #3 is a pulling action of monitored by pp2.

Any thoughts folks?
Do you agree that the feet start the crank of the gyro?
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:35 AM
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Do you agree that the feet start the crank of the gyro?
Lower body for sure- Feet are anchors but do have right/left, big toe to heel points of movement but the foundation of the 'machine' is the knees and hips- learn to move from here and the hands will love it.


Check out Lynn's first clip on this site:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...se_images&g=13

Lynn explains and shows both the Swinging gyro flywheel and the Hitter's backboard to push off.

A CLASSIC. Save it and watch it til it is burned on your brain- LOL
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:47 PM
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Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

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Old 08-17-2006, 06:04 PM
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Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

Chris
Hogan had problems hooking the ball...no wonder.

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Old 08-17-2006, 06:58 PM
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Hogan had problems hooking the ball...no wonder.

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I wish I had Hogan's ballstriking problems! He wasn't exactly a hack!!!
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Originally Posted by ChrisNZ
Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

Chris
Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:17 PM
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Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.
So the hips can be leading even if they have stopped?
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