I Had an Amazing Practice today!!!! But I still have a quesetion.
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09-12-2006, 10:43 PM
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Left shoulder thingie.
Pardon my shallow knowledge of TGM and my english.
Right shoulder and left shoulder thing, I read alot of post here and another site. I personally think , left shoulder up is a Band Aid. This is why.
Lets leave TGM on one side and NO TGM. and do not think golf. put them aside.
If you throw a ball or anything forward , Would u throw more accurately , powerfully and further if u throw them;
1. Forehand Pitching
2. Backhand flat wrist disc throw?
Would you think of
1. your hand and right arms.
2. your right shoulder
3. Your left shoulder
So when you throw something forward for instance , you think about your left shoulder clearing so that your right shoulder so that your right hand can do the work? You can ! But do you prefer to think like that, and is it a better way to think like that?
Or your would think of your right hand and arm, and the rest will provide the best support and momentum to do the job? And your Body will Naturally tilt so that your right shoulder provide the best support. Thats how your body will react to power. Do you think about it? Maybe yes maybe not.
back to TGM mode;
Since golf involved 2 arms. One can argue is different, but if one could never understand the role of the right shoulder, would not it be harder to have Out 4ward down 3 dimensional impact? I find it harder. And I notice something, I easily lose Extensor Action on the throughswing if i concentrate on the left shoulder up .
I too gained alot of yardage s just by understanding about the right shoulder. I think the keyword here is potential and efficiency here. Not just hitting straight and hitting balls everybody can do that.
Thats why 5-0 2-H is there for us to understand. One chapter alone do not really make sense. I think you need at least 2 chapters . Therefore, I stand behind Masters of LGB on this one firmly!
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09-13-2006, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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Pardon my shallow knowledge of TGM and my english.
Right shoulder and left shoulder thing, I read alot of post here and another site. I personally think , left shoulder up is a Band Aid. This is why.
Lets leave TGM on one side and NO TGM. and do not think golf. put them aside.
If you throw a ball or anything forward , Would u throw more accurately , powerfully and further if u throw them;
1. Forehand Pitching
2. Backhand flat wrist disc throw?
Would you think of
1. your hand and right arms.
2. your right shoulder
3. Your left shoulder
So when you throw something forward for instance , you think about your left shoulder clearing so that your right shoulder so that your right hand can do the work? You can ! But do you prefer to think like that, and is it a better way to think like that?
Or your would think of your right hand and arm, and the rest will provide the best support and momentum to do the job? And your Body will Naturally tilt so that your right shoulder provide the best support. Thats how your body will react to power. Do you think about it? Maybe yes maybe not.
back to TGM mode;
Since golf involved 2 arms. One can argue is different, but if one could never understand the role of the right shoulder, would not it be harder to have Out 4ward down 3 dimensional impact? I find it harder. And I notice something, I easily lose Extensor Action on the throughswing if i concentrate on the left shoulder up .
I too gained alot of yardage s just by understanding about the right shoulder. I think the keyword here is potential and efficiency here. Not just hitting straight and hitting balls everybody can do that.
Thats why 5-0 2-H is there for us to understand. One chapter alone do not really make sense. I think you need at least 2 chapters . Therefore, I stand behind Masters of LGB on this one firmly!
From a Jedi Wannabe.
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Answer me this ONE QUESTION, please.
If you REALLY REALLY wanted to throw a frisbee as far as you could, which shoulder would predominately think about? The lead shoulder or the trail shoulder.
The fact of the matter is this:
If the right shoulder is moving DOWNPLANE it is moving down/out/foward which makes the left shoulder do what? The left shoulder moves UP/IN/BACK.
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09-13-2006, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
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Answer me this ONE QUESTION, please.
If you REALLY REALLY wanted to throw a frisbee as far as you could, which shoulder would predominately think about? The lead shoulder or the trail shoulder.

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Personally...
If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my spinning Hips.
And once I got that Pivot activity relegated to subconscious control, I would focus on creating (and sensing) maximum Lag Pressure in my Left Hand.
And once I sensed Lag...
My focus would be on slinging that dadgum disc as far as I possibly could!

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09-13-2006, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Personally...
If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my Hips.
And once I got that Pivot activity relegated to subconscious control, I would focus on creating (and sensing) maximum Lag Pressure in my Left Hand.
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Exactly .. None of which (personally i pick right hand #3 and left thumb). But the hands. But never the left shoulder and I do understand the Role of the right shoulder 2-H but i do not think about it.
Please read again (first forgeting whatever TGM says)
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If you throw a ball or anything forward , Would u throw more accurately , powerfully and further if u throw them;
1. Forehand Pitching
2. Backhand flat wrist disc throw?
Would you think of
1. your hand and right arms.
2. your right shoulder
3. Your left shoulder
So when you throw something forward for instance , you think about your left shoulder clearing so that your right shoulder so that your right hand can do the work? You can ! But do you prefer to think like that, and is it a better way to think like that?
Or your would think of your right hand and arm, and the rest will provide the best support and momentum to do the job? And your Body will Naturally(by instinct perhaps )tilt so that your right shoulder provide the best support. Thats how your body will react to power. Do you think about it? Maybe yes maybe not.( In actual case without thinking thats what i will do)
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Personally...
If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my Hips.
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Do you think about it? you can. Do you have to? No. ( they are placed in the subconsious level the right shoulder the Hips, they reacted to the hand)
Of course , In any golf swing you are given a choice. But if you are talking Efficiency. I will pick 5-0 , 2-H
If you can get me to hit another 20 yards thinking about clearing the left shoulder, I think I am yours Jim.
By the way, I got a question back for you Jim. How would u setup yourself for the Maximum Trigger Delay by thinking of clearing of left shoulder. I'm curious
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09-13-2006, 01:43 AM
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Right Handers Need Not Apply
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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.. (personally i pick right hand #3 and left thumb).
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Nuke,
Unless I missed my guess, Jim is assuming a left-handed frisbee toss. So, the right hand option is not available.
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09-13-2006, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Nuke,
Unless I missed my guess, Jim is assuming a left-handed frisbee toss. So, the right hand option is not available.
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09-13-2006, 08:27 AM
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The frisbee toss would have to be two handed in order for it to be an apt analogy, no?
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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