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Old 11-03-2006, 08:48 PM
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Danny, I agree with the difficulty in concepts that you describe. If one truly executes a swinging basic motion ZERO pivot shot it has to have a left arm pull feel. Remember that the strictest definition of hitter and swinger ( so that it can be applied to basic as well as total motion) is of "pulling" - drag loading shaft ( as opposed to the hitters "push" - drive loading).

That means that basic motion swinging is still pulling but without the pivot motion ( as you describe from feet upwards - just like Percy Boomer so eloquently describes).

Summary:-
Basic motion has same alignments as total motion through impact BUT the feel for Basic motion swingers will be different when compared with total motion swingers( different power source)- both still "swing" because of drag load and "pulling".

Hitters have same alignments and power source in Basic and total motion.

I have never had this confirmed but this is the only way I can rationalise it - I await correction from learned colleagues!

Maybe the Chip -pitch ( as used by Ben Doyle who almost exclusively teaches swinging) is the better option for a swinger's basic motion. This would enable the swingers basic motion to match the total motion in both feel and alignments.

For swingers to get the pivot dragging left arm feel you need to have a pivot. MAybe thats why Ben does chip -pitch? See that video in gallery where Ben and Lynn demonstrating basic motion - Ben stresses that Pivot takes the hands forward...
I have often felt that Homer's desire to academically unify hitting and swinging with concepts of equal importance for both is, perhaps, a misjudgement. ( emoticon for heresy??! but i will expand if questioned on a seperate thread)... but i read on another thread that the first edition did not formally isolate hitting and swinging ... it grew later... and he was planning to formally seperate teh two patterns in two different books... to me that makes sense...

Hitting is a less pivot dominated stroke ( generally) and hence is suited to zero pivot stroke basi motion... as you describe the majority of a swingers strokes ( acquired and total motion) wil be pivot -driven hands controlled.
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