Swinger's backswing question--- PLEASE HELP!

[6bmike]

I will try to understand the RFP, but can you break it down for me? Does it involve (a swinger) COCKING the right elbow on the backswing, or not?

And did you get what I meant when I said that (to me) there's two totally different feels on the backswing- a "moving everything together under my chin" type feeling, or, a "cock my right elbow to bring the club up" feeling.

To me, they're totally different, and I'm wondering if the "cocking" style is o.k. for a swinger. I hope I'm explaining myself correctly- forgive me if I'm not. Again- I'm a TGM novice.

A hitter uses an action. This is the folding of the right elbow which neatly cocks the left wrist at the same time.
A swinger uses a motion as an option. The right hand pulls the left arm to the top of the backstroke creating a momentum that neatly cocks the left wrist. This momentum is what folds the right arm. I still think it is an option for swingers (I may be wrong, I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night). Check out S. Appleby- he folds and bombs it.

[hopefulhacker]

I'm more lost than before.

[mb6606]

"So, Right Elbow Action either powers and/or controls all three elements or Three Dimensions Impact (2-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM."

HK is stating that the right arm does it all - is this true for the swinger?
The confusion begins with the discussion of the left arm, accum. #4, pulling with the left side, uncocking the left wrist, etc.

[6bmike]

"So, Right Elbow Action either powers and/or controls all three elements or Three Dimensions Impact (2-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM."

HK is stating that the right arm does it all - is this true for the swinger?
The confusion begins with the discussion of the left arm, accum. #4, pulling with the left side, uncocking the left wrist, etc.

Does the right arm do it all? It sure is important since it is On Plane. The left arm isn't- it is above plane. There is a right shoulder gyro spinning of the left arm- accum4, Master Accumulator, the pivot accumulator - as the left side begins to pull. This is a no nonsense swift and immediate throw out.

It is the right half of the Flying Wedge that maintains the Magic of the Right Forearm to stay on plane during this explosive throw out. Yes, the right arm is genius.

[rogerdodger]

If my address position is correct, an rfp with a passive body that responds to the motion of the right forearm places the club in the proper plane. I swing and find that conscious lifting with the elbow or turning with the body really gets the club off plane. I really focus on the right forearm for best results. I think the elbow bends due to the right forearm movement, others probably have a better explanation.

[hopefulhacker]

Finally someone answering my original question in a way I can understand. Can you please explain the difference- in layman's terms (non-TGM), between RFP and cocking the right elbow on the backswing? I'm starting to get it, but could use more precision and simplicity- AGAIN- I'm a total TGM-challenged golfer who is TRYING to understand (so please, guys- don't get frustrated by my ignorance!). Let me just put this out there and hope someone understands:

To start the backswing, I roll both arms together so that the clubface quickly points along the ball-to-target line. I think I'm doing the swivel. I could be wrong. Anyway, my next move after this roll is sort of a continued two-arm roll moving into a right elbow cocking, which completes my backswing. I'm sure my technique is riddled with errors. Can someone point them out and explain what I, as a swinger, should be doing?

[rogerdodger]

I do not think of swivel or roll in the takeaway, those are bad news concepts for me, as I tend totake it back too far inside. I instead trace the plane line with my right forearm. Everything else responds and at the top I am on plane. If conscious elbow bending or rolling occur, I get off plane. Others probably have much better explanation, for me, less is best for backswing thoughts.