Study and practice the extensor action drill from the Tomasello Chapter 2 "ARMS" video....from that drill you will learn the correct downstroke motion of the right forearm automatically (it took me years to finally understand how important that drill is).....from the top of a completed backswing....attempt to hit out (analyze this slowly, slow swings), see what happens to your pivot.... and then attempt to hit down, see what happens....then attempt to hit down and out from the top.....you'll find the correct downstroke motion is down with the right forearm. To check yourself, monitor your shoulder motion....with the out motion of the right forearm the shoulders go out....with a down and out motion of the right forearm, again the shoulders will go out. Only with a downward motion of the right forearm does the right shoulder move toward impact on the "Downstroke Clubshaft Plane". Check 7-3 for Homers comment about the precise up and down motion of the right forearm. It's in there............
First question for 8cork....do you understand how the straight line delivery path functions in both the backswing and downswing?
DG
Thanks for the advise DG, for me I think I have to find a happy median with the down motion of the right forearm, and also a closing of the door feeling. If I only feel the right forearm traveling down to the ball I hit high fades/cuts. If I try and close the door too soon, I hit heel shots, my right shoulder travels out instead of down. I look forward to some guidence next month in Orlando.
Thanks for the advise DG, for me I think I have to find a happy median with the down motion of the right forearm, and also a closing of the door feeling. If I only feel the right forearm traveling down to the ball I hit high fades/cuts. If I try and close the door too soon, I hit heel shots, my right shoulder travels out instead of down. I look forward to some guidence next month in Orlando.
Don't think you'll find the answer in Orlando. If you do, it's with another pattern.
Didn't answer my question about the straight delivery path?
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 02-24-2007 at 11:15 AM.
Don't think you'll find the answer in Orlando. If you do, it's with another pattern.
Hey, wait a minute.....
Are you saying that he will waste time vistiting the troika????
And that your answer is the best???
Lynn and co don't teach Tommy's pattern or with his method of teaching the right arm. How he taught me, some of the finer points of his instruction are not on the video tapes.
Never said 8cork would be wasting his time in Orlando....that's your incorrect assessment. See how things can get twisted.
Trust me, I have the upmost respect for the way Lynn approaches the machine. If I didn't decide to continue my studies with Tom Tomasello's instruction, I would be studying with Lynn and co.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 02-24-2007 at 11:56 AM.
- don´t they teach it because they don´t know it or because it is a pattern that does not suit everybody?
Yes, it's in the book....Magic of the Right Forearm (to execute the downstroke with 12-1-0 and 12-2-0).
You'll have to ask other AI's why they don't teach like Tommy (but there are AIs that teach exactly what Tommy taught)...I believe Tommy decided to teach from Homers original approach, a right arm/arm swinging based approach to the game in line with Harry Vardon and Tommy Armour. Both Vardon and Armour were against starting the downswing with the lower body.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 02-24-2007 at 12:20 PM.
Both Vardon and Armour were against starting the downswing with the lower body.
As I understand it, Tommy Armour's Start Down was all about getting the right knee in toward the ball. He taught that the feet and knees -- "footwork" as he called it -- moved the body out of the way (in both directions) so that the hands and arms could swing freely and then whip the club through the ball.
Yes, it's in the book....Magic of the Right Forearm (to execute the downstroke with 12-1-0 and 12-2-0).
You'll have to ask other AI's why they don't teach like Tommy (but there are AIs that teach exactly what Tommy taught)...I believe Tommy decided to teach from Homers original approach, a right arm/arm swinging based approach to the game in line with Harry Vardon and Tommy Armour. Both Vardon and Armour were against starting the downswing with the lower body.
DG
First of all, I would like to apologize to the site owner and his crew and all members for not staying with the topic. Please delete or change to another place.
DG,
I have been following your posts with great interest, and your knowledge on Mr. Tomasellos teaching, is second to none.
But today I have reached the point where I need to say what has been bothering me.
I don´t know you or your background. I do know that you have spent time with Mr. Tomasello and, my interpretation of your posts here, that his word is law to you.
I, for thoose who did not know, am an AI.
Let me start with
"You'll have to ask other AI's why they don't teach like Tommy"
[We are taught and teach after the book written by Homer Kelley. If you did not know, you have over 44 trillions of different patterns that will fulfil the 3 imperatives. Which patterns to choose depends on the students CV.
To me, IMOO, that is a flexible system, MY WAY, not THE WAY.
"Trust me, I have the upmost respect for the way Lynn approaches the machine. If I didn't decide to continue my studies with Tom Tomasello's instruction, I would be studying with Lynn and co."
You did add this one to your original. I hope you do, since you are in his home.
"Cheers to another successful LBG Academy/Workshop"
Are you sarcastic?
I think you should be thankfull to Lynn and co. To have clips of your Master and Mr Doyle here is big. That tells me, I don´t know about you, how big Lynn´s generosity is.
You would not see that happen on any other golfsite.
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Golf is an impossible game with impossible tools - Winston Churchill
Last edited by Amen Corner : 02-24-2007 at 02:25 PM.
Don't think you'll find the answer in Orlando. If you do, it's with another pattern.
Maybe not, DG, but at the very least, we're going to have one heck of a good time looking!
I am happy you have found your "'answer" with the Pattern you learned from Tom Tomasello. And I appreciate your statement that it may also exist "with another pattern."
It is clear that there is more than one way to get the job done. I have always enjoyed the following quote from the Preface of the first edition of The Golfing Machine:
"Writing a book was not the original intention -- only to isolate the mechancial factors. Those factors seeped through slowly at first, but finally burst through the dikes. And the concept of "THE" correct Stroke could only just lay there while several trillion others swept over it. "
Maybe not, DG, but at the very least, we're going to have one heck of a good time looking!
I am happy you have found your "'answer" with the Pattern you learned from Tom Tomasello. And I appreciate your statement that it may also exist "with another pattern." .
It is clear that there is more than one way to get the job done. I have always enjoyed the following quote from the Preface of the first edition of The Golfing Machine:
"Writing a book was not the original intention -- only to isolate the mechancial factors. Those factors seeped through slowly at first, but finally burst through the dikes. And the concept of "THE" correct Stroke could only just lay there while several trillion others swept over it. "
Cool Yoda....I couldn't have said it better. Cheers to another successful LBG Academy/Workshop. Once I get the CFA exams completed, I'll attend one of the academies.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 02-24-2007 at 12:31 PM.
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