swing left, and look like this

[tradekid]

Based on Ted's comments, it appears the swing left is not coming from Evershed. The swing left concept that Mark teachs is acutally 1-L-15, a post impact condition.

DG

I don't know. YodasLuke needs to explain himself better. Is he talking about Hardy? Manzella? Evershed? What does he think swinging left is?

Go ahead YodasLuke...

...thrill us with your acumen!

[6bmike]

I don't know. YodasLuke needs to explain himself better. Is he talking about Hardy? Manzella? Evershed? What does he think swinging left is?

Go ahead YodasLuke...

...thrill us with your acumen!

I think Ted has explained himself quite well. It is a modern golf axiom to swing to the left. Most have an OTT move- Outside to In to achieve this or swing the club around without a proper 3 Dimensional Incline Plane- just trace a circle with the clubhead on a ground line.

If you continue to trace a straight plane line with the Hands and have proper rhythm (TGM definition of course), the Pivot will move the hands to the inside-visually to the left. And without any independent Hand movement that this axiom wrong implies to many.

Forward? Good question DG. I don’t know. I think the linear motion to the ball was implied where as the Down and Out on Plane to Joe Duffer isn’t??

[ChangeMySwing]

cheap shot

[YodasLuke]

I think Ted has explained himself quite well. It is a modern golf axiom to swing to the left. Most have an OTT move- Outside to In to achieve this or swing the club around without a proper 3 Dimensional Incline Plane- just trace a circle with the clubhead on a ground line.

If you continue to trace a straight plane line with the Hands and have proper rhythm (TGM definition of course), the Pivot will move the hands to the inside-visually to the left. And without any independent Hand movement that this axiom wrong implies to many.

Forward? Good question DG. I don’t know. I think the linear motion to the ball was implied where as the Down and Out on Plane to Joe Duffer isn’t??

Thanks 6B,
It is the axiom that I find to be beneath contempt. I, honestly, could care less who teaches such things. I will not. It's frustrating enough for me to hear the things that people have been told (even more so when they can accomplish them). So, I know it's frustrating for someone like this guy that was pounding 7 irons 100 yards.

Not that anyone wants to take this a step further, but, the visual arc sharpens as the plane shallows. And, the visual arc straightens as the plane becomes steeper. Ultimately, it can become a visually straight line in the Angle of Approach Procedure.

The points are simply these:

1. Most see Low Point and Impact as the same thing.

2. Telling someone to swing left has no geometric basis and will encourage the bypassing of Low Point (encouraging for 1st point). But, if you'd like to encourage Roundhousing, it's an incomparable suggestion.

3. The degree of visual curvature is based in the steepness of the plane.

[12 piece bucket]

Thanks 6B,
It is the axiom that I find to be beneath contempt. I, honestly, could care less who teaches such things. I will not. It's frustrating enough for me to hear the things that people have been told (even more so when they can accomplish them). So, I know it's frustrating for someone like this guy that was pounding 7 irons 100 yards.

Not that anyone wants to take this a step further, but, the visual arc sharpens as the plane shallows. And, the visual arc straightens as the plane becomes steeper. Ultimately, it can become a visually straight line in the Angle of Approach Procedure.

The points are simply these:

1. Most see Low Point and Impact as the same thing.

2. Telling someone to swing left has no geometric basis and will encourage the bypassing of Low Point (encouraging for 1st point). But, if you'd like to encourage Roundhousing, it's an incomparable suggestion.

3. The degree of visual curvature is based in the steepness of the plane.

Nice 'un! Make the world go 'round in circles . . . make it fly high like a bird up in the sky.

[cpwindow4]

Thanks 6B,
It is the axiom that I find to be beneath contempt. I, honestly, could care less who teaches such things. I will not. It's frustrating enough for me to hear the things that people have been told (even more so when they can accomplish them). So, I know it's frustrating for someone like this guy that was pounding 7 irons 100 yards.

Not that anyone wants to take this a step further, but, the visual arc sharpens as the plane shallows. And, the visual arc straightens as the plane becomes steeper. Ultimately, it can become a visually straight line in the Angle of Approach Procedure.

The points are simply these:

1. Most see Low Point and Impact as the same thing.

2. Telling someone to swing left has no geometric basis and will encourage the bypassing of Low Point (encouraging for 1st point). But, if you'd like to encourage Roundhousing, it's an incomparable suggestion.

3. The degree of visual curvature is based in the steepness of the plane.

Yoda,

Love this post!
#3 is very over looked when people say go left. Not to take away from the total view of what may work for a low handicap player who may get the low point ( I would hope)
I have seen a few of the guys from this camp of thought. But they always have sand on the SW from the left bunker.

[Yoda]

I took these three photos on the Practice Tee at the PODS Championship in Palm Harbor, Florida, two weeks ago. They illustrate V.J. Singh's new 'avoidance behavior' setup.

I'll put up a post on this subject tomorrow or Tuesday. Meanswhile, consider them food for thought. Check the divot direction in Photo #2 and V.J.'s reaction to the results in #3.

Hint: He was hitting big cuts. Slices even.

[6bmike]

I took these three photos on the Practice Tee at the PODS Championship in Palm Harbor, Florida, two weeks ago. They illustrate V.J. Singh's new 'avoidance behavior' setup.

I'll put up a post on this subject tomorrow or Tuesday. Meanswhile, consider them food for thought. Check the divot direction in Photo #2 and V.J.'s reaction to the results in #3.

Hint: He was hitting big cuts. Slices even.

3 in the morning Lynn- you forgot something. Besides sleep.

[Yoda]

3 in the morning Lynn- you forgot something. Besides sleep.

Thanks, Mike. I couldn't get the photos to load earlier because of very low signal strength on my wireless network. All fixed now.

[6bmike]

I took these three photos on the Practice Tee at the PODS Championship in Palm Harbor, Florida, two weeks ago. They illustrate V.J. Singh's new 'avoidance behavior' setup.

I'll put up a post on this subject tomorrow or Tuesday. Meanswhile, consider them food for thought. Check the divot direction in Photo #2 and V.J.'s reaction to the results in #3.

Hint: He was hitting big cuts. Slices even.

give a man a camera and he will tell you stories. Another great job reporting, Lynn. I love VJ's 90 dollar red plastic dowel.