The 160-yard chip...

[comdpa]

No answer to this question?

Hi Loren,

Try releasing the right hand during impact.
In my teaching experience, it is the unruly right hand that causes the left hand and arm to malfunction.
Doing so, you will notice that the left wrist will remain flat all the way to the finish.

I was taught this drill personally by Gregg McHatton, GSED.

[Yoda]

Try releasing the right hand during impact.

I was taught this drill personally by Gregg McHatton, GSED.

You do not execute a correct Finish Swivel by 'releasing the Right Hand.' You execute a correct Finish Swivel by Rolling and Re-Cocking the Flat Left Wrist.

And that is how it should be learned.

Except in a deliberate Throwaway procedure or perhaps to a degree in a Right Arm Swing, there is no 'release' of the Right Hand during Impact.

There is a Release of the Cocked Left Wrist as the Clubshaft seeks its In-Line condition with the Left Arm, i.e., Full Extension.

There is the Release of the Turned Left Hand as it Rolls and allows the Clubhead to overtake the Hands.

And, for Hitters, there is the Active Release of the Bent Right Elbow as the Right Triceps straightens the Right Arm and drives the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb.

But...

There is no release of the Right Hand, the Bent Right Wrist and the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point (Pressue against the forefinger).

Ideally, the Right Wrist is never Cocked (Perpendicular Motion) during the Backstroke -- so it cannot be Uncocked during the Downstroke. Instead, it is only Bent (Horizontal Motion) -- and that Bent condition is maintained through Impact and for as long as possible into the Follow-Through. There is no Flattening through Impact (also a Horizontal Motion) because any Flattening of the Right Wrist becomes Left Wrist Bend.

Throughout the Stroke, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its alignments support the Left Arm Flying Wedge and its alignments. And through Impact, it assures an On Plane Motion by Tracing the Straight Line Base Line of the Inclined Plane.

From the Top, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge only Rotates (Rolls to the left). The Right Wrist does not Flatten nor does it Uncock.The Left Arm Flying Wedge only Uncocks and likewise Rolls. Consequently, the Left Wrist never Bends.

Any other movement invites Horizontal Motion through Impact.

And that spells Geometric disaster.

[geoffb]

Greg has also shown me this drill and I think when compda said "release", he was actually meaning to let go of the club with your right hand completely.

Correct me if I'm wrong compda?

btw, some great info in your response there Yoda!

[Yoda]

Greg has also shown me this drill and I think when compda said "release", he was actually meaning to let go of the club with your right hand completely.

Correct me if I'm wrong compda?

Well, that would explain things.

However, when you do such a drill and physically 'let go' of the club with the Right Hand -- obviously emphasizing the Pivot, its Transport of the Power Package to Release and the subsequent centrifugally-driven Left Wrist Uncock and Left Hand Roll -- remember that you have also forfeited the Right Hand's Lag Pressure Point. And since Lag Pressure is the basis of the Golf Stroke, it must at some point be recaptured in the mind of both the Student and the Instructor.

In any event, this conversation once again highlights the need for a unified Golfing Terminology. The word 'Release' in TGM has a very specific meaning -- an Out-of-Line Condition seeking its In-Line Condition. And that meaning is far removed from a physical letting go of the club.

If we don't speak the same language, how can we possibly communicate?

[geoffb]

Well, that would explain things.

However, when you do such a drill and physically 'let go' of the club with the Right Hand -- obviously emphasizing the Pivot, its Transport of the Power Package to Release and the subsequent centrifugally-driven Left Wrist Uncock and Left Hand Roll -- remember that you have also forfeited the Right Hand's Lag Pressure Point. And since Lag Pressure is the basis of the Golf Stroke, it must at some point be recaptured in the mind of both the Student and the Instructor.

I have personally experienced some very good ball striking with this method in the past. However, I know it was because my right hand/arm action was not up to scratch and by letting go, it could not disrupt the "centrifugally-driven Left Wrist Uncock and Left Hand Roll". It of course, didn't change the fact that I needed to do more work on my right side's role...

In any event, this conversation once again highlights the need for a unified Golfing Terminology. The word 'Release' in TGM has a very specific meaning -- an Out-of-Line Condition seeking its In-Line Condition.

And that meaning is far removed from a physical letting go of the club.

If we don't speak the same language, how can we possibly communicate?

Amen to that Yoda! I would have thought the same thing myself had I not seen and done the drill myself with Greg. It's the same reason I cannot stand reading golf magazines anymore


Cheers,

GB

[comdpa]

Well, that would explain things.

However, when you do such a drill and physically 'let go' of the club with the Right Hand -- obviously emphasizing the Pivot, its Transport of the Power Package to Release and the subsequent centrifugally-driven Left Wrist Uncock and Left Hand Roll -- remember that you have also forfeited the Right Hand's Lag Pressure Point. And since Lag Pressure is the basis of the Golf Stroke, it must at some point be recaptured in the mind of both the Student and the Instructor.

In any event, this conversation once again highlights the need for a unified Golfing Terminology. The word 'Release' in TGM has a very specific meaning -- an Out-of-Line Condition seeking its In-Line Condition. And that meaning is far removed from a physical letting go of the club.

If we don't speak the same language, how can we possibly communicate?

Man...we certainly have come a looooong way.

[Daryl]

You do not execute a correct Finish Swivel by 'releasing the Right Hand.' You execute a correct Finish Swivel by Rolling and Re-Cocking the Flat Left Wrist.

And that is how it should be learned.

Except in a deliberate Throwaway procedure or perhaps to a degree in a Right Arm Swing, there is no 'release' of the Right Hand during Impact.

There is a Release of the Cocked Left Wrist as the Clubshaft seeks its In-Line condition with the Left Arm, i.e., Full Extension.

There is the Release of the Turned Left Hand as it Rolls and allows the Clubhead to overtake the Hands.

And, for Hitters, there is the Active Release of the Bent Right Elbow as the Right Triceps straightens the Right Arm and drives the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb.

But...

There is no release of the Right Hand, the Bent Right Wrist and the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point (Pressue against the forefinger).

Ideally, the Right Wrist is never Cocked (Perpendicular Motion) during the Backstroke -- so it cannot be Uncocked during the Downstroke. Instead, it is only Bent (Horizontal Motion) -- and that Bent condition is maintained through Impact and for as long as possible into the Follow-Through. There is no Flattening through Impact (also a Horizontal Motion) because any Flattening of the Right Wrist becomes Left Wrist Bend.

Throughout the Stroke, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its alignments support the Left Arm Flying Wedge and its alignments. And through Impact, it assures an On Plane Motion by Tracing the Straight Line Base Line of the Inclined Plane.

From the Top, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge only Rotates (Rolls to the left). The Right Wrist does not Flatten nor does it Uncock.The Left Arm Flying Wedge only Uncocks and likewise Rolls. Consequently, the Left Wrist never Bends.

Any other movement invites Horizontal Motion through Impact.

And that spells Geometric disaster.

Take a look at this beauty I found while scrounging around, digging for the buried treasures.

Damn, that's a good post. I wonder why Homer didn't say the Right Forearm Wedge "Revolves" around the Hinge. I certainly understand his meaning of Roll, but it's confusing to a lot of people.

[KevCarter]

Take a look at this beauty I found while scrounging around, digging for the buried treasures.

Damn, that's a good post. I wonder why Homer didn't say the Right Forearm Wedge "Revolves" around the Hinge. I certainly understand his meaning of Roll, but it's confusing to a lot of people.

Man, great find Daryl!

Kevin

[david sandridge]

Yoda taught me to twirl the baton with a larger dowel. It took awhile for me to do the backswing, downswing and finish swivel to his satisfaction. Do you have a video of that yoda?

[Yoda]

Yoda taught me to twirl the baton with a larger dowel. It took awhile for me to do the backswing, downswing and finish swivel to his satisfaction. Do you have a video of that yoda?

No, David. But I should.

My wife never played golf -- she sustained a neck injury many years ago that prevented it -- but she had a beautiful swing on the practice tee from the very beginning.

Yoda: What a wonderful Release though the Ball. How do you do it?

Mrs. Yoda: "Ball-Thumb", just like twirling a baton.

Yoda: Ball-Thumb? One of your 'majorette' things? Talk to me!

Mrs. Yoda: It's simple: Your Thumb goes where the 'ball' (of the baton) goes. [Demonstrating a left-handed baton twirl and the perfect Left Wrist Roll through Impact.]



And so it does.