"Use the Bounce of the club" means what in the shortgame???? (excludes bunker shots)
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04-27-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 300Drive
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I have heard this phrase often when in comes to pitch shots. How would we apply that (or should we) from a TGM perspective?
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With all but a very tight lie, using the bounce provides more margin for error, especially for high soft shots around the green, and most certainly from the rough.
Using the leading edge requires much more precision for clubHEAD control, and from the rough, the risk is that you will get caught up and have little chance at good distance control.
It is a matter of practice and experimentation to learn what types of lies allow you to use more/less bounce and the specific wedge/bounce design can make a big difference IMO.
In effect, the same as a bunker shot. Having the bounce of the club hit the ground first, allows it to glide through, rather than dig/stick in the rough.
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06-15-2007, 11:50 AM
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When would you want to hit the ground first, rather than the ball, in a pitch shot? That is, what "situations" call for this type of shot selection?
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06-15-2007, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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With all but a very tight lie, using the bounce provides more margin for error, especially for high soft shots around the green, and most certainly from the rough.
Using the leading edge requires much more precision for clubHEAD control, and from the rough, the risk is that you will get caught up and have little chance at good distance control.
It is a matter of practice and experimentation to learn what types of lies allow you to use more/less bounce and the specific wedge/bounce design can make a big difference IMO.
In effect, the same as a bunker shot. Having the bounce of the club hit the ground first, allows it to glide through, rather than dig/stick in the rough.
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You know I've often wondered what the hell that meant too . . . Good question 3Billz. Thanks for bringing this up.
EdZ . . . do you INTENTIONALLY hit the ball fat when doing this? I have used that shot some and it works good. But I'm not sure that is what you are saying.
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06-15-2007, 05:19 PM
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some refer to this and intend of throwing the club away and loosing the FLW also, that is how is was explaned to me more of a cupping of the left wrist into impact thus totally destroying the flying wedge alignments
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06-19-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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You know I've often wondered what the hell that meant too . . . Good question 3Billz. Thanks for bringing this up.
EdZ . . . do you INTENTIONALLY hit the ball fat when doing this? I have used that shot some and it works good. But I'm not sure that is what you are saying.
Holla back.
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For a bad lie from thick rough around the green, where you need to make 'sure' you get it out, but you don't have much distance to get on the green - yep - I intentially move low point back - just like in a bunker shot.
Keep in mind that does not mean throw away, it means I adjust the machine alignments/ball position/clubface to get my low point under the ball, instead of ahead of it, or even behind for a nasty lie.
All the while the machine moves the same way, the setup determines the result not an in swing manipulation. Far easier than intentionally throwing it away, which while useful at certain times (very high, soft shot) is much harder to do than to simpley align the machine for the result you want.
Using the bounce basically means manipulation of the low point of the clubhead (aiming point), moving it back from where it would be if you were using the leading edge. Still with a flat left wrist.
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06-19-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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For a bad lie from thick rough around the green, where you need to make 'sure' you get it out, but you don't have much distance to get on the green - yep - I intentially move low point back - just like in a bunker shot.
Keep in mind that does not mean throw away, it means I adjust the machine alignments/ball position/clubface to get my low point under the ball, instead of ahead of it, or even behind for a nasty lie.
All the while the machine moves the same way, the setup determines the result not an in swing manipulation. Far easier than intentionally throwing it away, which while useful at certain times (very high, soft shot) is much harder to do than to simpley align the machine for the result you want.
Using the bounce basically means manipulation of the low point of the clubhead (aiming point), moving it back from where it would be if you were using the leading edge. Still with a flat left wrist.
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I think you can hit it intentionally fat on cuppy lies and really tight lies too.
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