Angel Cabrera : TGM Analysis
U.S. Open - 2007
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06-20-2007, 02:40 AM
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Angel Swinger or Hitter
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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He looked sorta like a Hitter to me . . .
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I thought that that a long flowing action like Angel's would be a Swinging Action?
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06-20-2007, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Seanmx
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I thought that that a long flowing action like Angel's would be a Swinging Action?
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Same here looks an out and out swinger to me. Can't quite understand where Bucket got that one from...
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06-20-2007, 07:02 AM
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I agree with bucket. he is a hitter. tempo alone does not differ a hitter and swinger. Can be an aggressive swinger.
There is no sign of centrifugal throwout.
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06-20-2007, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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There is no sign of centrifugal throwout.
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Well there seems throwout to my eye, what do you base this on?
Also he comes in very deep with what looks like a snap release i can't see how he'd square the face without cf.
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06-20-2007, 12:30 PM
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Punch elbow from drivers to irons. His arm doesn't Freewheel to a finish like swingers (sergio, his good buddy Eduardo ,) more "holding out" look.. due to hitter arm support on the primary assembly, especially in the irons. Arms wide apart at TOP of backswing and throughswing.
The difference of hitting and swinging is the active use of Accumulator 1 .
The way he uses his body on driver resembles of a swinger . and he have a long back swing for a hitter... so... 4 barrel cracker hittah.
Though I must admit, I only seen few swing from the recorded telecast.. so ^^.
And being bias.. Look at his distance.. ! lol
Hitter can snap release if he want.. but I am not sure he did...What do you base on?
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06-20-2007, 01:04 PM
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nuke99 he may have same right forearm thrust to make him a four barrel. But to me he treats the club a lot more like a rope than an axe, he also seems to rotate his palms to the plane and has a snap release.
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06-20-2007, 01:30 PM
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A hitter still need the Pivot transport. The left side can only pull the left arm.. It cannot push no matter what. Does that make them a swinger? Look at my sig... taken year back.. Lynn say I am Hitting .. ( and i thought i am swinging, he is right because my forearm is active ) lol. Over the top too !
There is no word called switting in the TGM book , Nor I implying he is using Incompatible component. Therefore IMHO, there is only Hitting or Swinging.
He uses Accumulator 1,thus the elbow become active power. How is that differentiated when the elbow knows only to bend and unbend... ?
Is it "feasible" to let the centrifugal take over or throwout when the accumulator 1 is active and the arms assembly is stiffen by the accumulator 1+ extensor action ( which he does not use alot) supporting the primary assembly?
Centrifugal throwout works on a flail or a stiff piston assembly ( axe) ? Depending on how we use the term and classifying them.
And... Treating the club as a rope or an axe is not the way to differentiate hitting or swinging IMO... its just an analogy.
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06-20-2007, 02:24 PM
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I went slow mo on a couple of swings for him. I t-bo or what-the-heck-ever-you-cal-it.
It looked drive out to me. I don't think you are going to see many "pure" hitters from a chapter 12 perspective other than TeddyKnockthecrapoutofit. Most of those guys don't know and don't care what their pattern is.
It looked like Right Arm Acceleration to me big time . . . but I'm just a mongoloid from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Maybe there's a swing vision out there for him . . .
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06-20-2007, 03:51 PM
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On the V1 swing of him i filmed myself at the British PGA at Wentworth he has a Pitch basic stroke.
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06-20-2007, 08:03 PM
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Tomasello Swinger
Angel Cabera....Tomasello swinger all the way......Magic of the Right Forearm.....Yeeee Hawwwwwww.
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