I love V.J.s book in regard to its theories about low point, center of gravity, axis of rotation, sequencing and the science behind it. The arguement for it describing the missing link in the Hogan secret is interesting but secondary in my opinion.
For me, V.J.s move is the most usable of all the secrets revealed to date. I've tried most of them, with the exception of the John Schlee "make your two arms one big arm" which never made it out of the airport I read the book in.
The Venturi photo tells me that he is familar with the "missing link" move. I'd be interested in his views and what Hogan might have said about it. Did you notice the caption below it where he says he "is giving Willie Mays a few pointers". This suggests to me that the move is high on his list of tips. Has anyone ever heard Venturi commenting on it in the past? You'd think he would unless he had good reason to not to.
The Venturi photo tells me that he is familar with the "missing link" move. I'd be interested in his views and what Hogan might have said about it. Did you notice the caption below it where he says he "is giving Willie Mays a few pointers". This suggests to me that the move is high on his list of tips. Has anyone ever heard Venturi commenting on it in the past? You'd think he would unless he had good reason to not to.
O.B.
I just ordered my copy of VJ's book today , so i haven't read it yet, but I have a feel about the move from the posts above.
I like the photo but I think you might be reading a little too much into it... The caption underneath is what any pro golfer would write if he was pretending to give a pro baseball guy some "advice"... and a stationary shot of transition from that angle suggests only a transition move...maybe baseball...maybe golf...maybe Hogan secret move... but probably just 2 sports stars who swing something in a similar manner having a laugh in front of the cameras...
Yes. You could be right. Venturi posing in a transtional move. But a nice one. Different. His center of balance, axis or rotation, low point all in compiance with the missing link. And all while he is still at the top. Like the secret, we'll never know I guess.
Enjoy the book, there is much more than we have discussed here.
Might someone please post the Mays / Hogan / Venturi pic(s) from this book?
I saw Hogan play about 15 times & his concentration and "management" was something to behold. His iron shots had a very distict sound similar to the loud crack of a rifle not a "pop" at all. He was an excellent putter, too. But his range work was absolutely unbeleivable...consistently flying golf balls into a dayum shag bag or hitting his shag caddie. It would an OSHA violation today!
Bh also not a total A**hole and had an affinity for Hollywood, movie, sport's stars. He shared his thoughts with allot of people. I'm convinced if BH said his cupped left wrist was his "secret" then he believed it to his very core. But even BH decsribed golf swing movements he "felt" he did that simply aren't supported by film. That's the fatal problem with this silly game.
Bucket et al......is the missing link move what actually stops the clubs backward movement? Do you have to be loose, loose,loose with the hands to really feel the rubber band stretch? Is this a fountain of youth move for the round belly set?
Just got the book and from what I can tell it zeros in on HULA-HULA 7-14 Hip Turn and 7-15 Hip Action
Also, the explanation of constant ball position and low point, combined with Hogan's missing piece, explains how he eliminated the left side of the course.
Combine this with Clampett's book and you can put together a pretty good pattern.
Really got a kick out of a call last night. I gave a copy of the
"Missing Piece" to a friend of mind and we worked on it all last
week. My buddy played with his friends and hit the ball 20 Yds
further, even reached a par 5 in 2. His buddies asked about
what looked like a move to the left in his swing. He told them
that it was the "Stack and Tilt". I told him what V.J. said about
the "Stack and Tilt" and he said, "I read that, but Hogan never
told the S.O.B.s his secret and I am not about to tell them mine."
My buddy says that V.J.s bump to the right at start helped a lot.
My buddy is a fan of Homer Kelley and likes to think of the left shoulder
in terms of the #4 pressure point. The marked dowel helped a lot
to get a picture of the address, low point and left shoulder.
Bucket et al......is the missing link move what actually stops the clubs backward movement? Do you have to be loose, loose,loose with the hands to really feel the rubber band stretch? Is this a fountain of youth move for the round belly set?
O.b.
I think I can speak with authority as the president of the round belly club, but not with authority on VJ's book.
VJ and I are planning to play golf very soon, so I'm waiting to see him to get my autographed copy of the book. Since I don't have the book, I'm going on the posts and speculation.
I am Hitting, but I use a 4 Accumulator pattern. So, I have a Swinger's Start Down. You may be able to see in these pictures that I move forward about 5 frames with my Hips, as my Clubhead continues back. I've made a small blue mark on my Left Hip to mark the beginning of forward motion. I have made red marks on the Clubhead, as it continues back. This change of direction places a heavy load on the shaft.
This was one of the highest speeds that I've achieved on tape at 123 mph. I'm not sure if this is exactly what VJ's talking about. But, I see this move in players that can really smash the ball.
This was one of the highest speeds that I've achieved on tape at 123 mph.
I happened to be on hand and witnessed these efforts, both with the dowel and the golf club. I hereby verify the accuracy of the speeds referenced in this thread.