This post was actually -very incorrect .Since no one criticised it ,I will.
Lynn does not perform this move IMO ,but after his hip bump he ends up in the same position.
VJ is not advocating a hip bump in the book .
It seems to me you can do either.
Does anyone feel that VJ's book is only for those who want to play a fade? or can it be incorporated into any swing?
Hoping not to walk into a sink hole here, BUT, Yoda has and does advocate having and leaving weight on the forward side. Not the same that was in the final piece, as the weight did shift back till hands hip high and then move forward on the way to the top.
I am having mixed results but I need to work on some fitness since spreading my stance a tad has resulted in a small injury, oops.
No I don't beleive it is for only those who wish to play a fade. Granted Hogan took one side of the course out, but he still could work the ball. Small steps at first, hit straight, then work it. JMO.
Hoping not to walk into a sink hole here, BUT, Yoda has and does advocate having and leaving weight on the forward side. Not the same that was in the final piece, as the weight did shift back till hands hip high and then move forward on the way to the top.
I am having mixed results but I need to work on some fitness since spreading my stance a tad has resulted in a small injury, oops.
No I don't beleive it is for only those who wish to play a fade. Granted Hogan took one side of the course out, but he still could work the ball. Small steps at first, hit straight, then work it. JMO.
Thanks Martee,
The feeling I get when using the" missing piece " move is of no move to the right -just rotating onto the left leg.Video tells the true story-there is a slight move to the right. One thing is that it does feel like your arms have a lot more room to swing down.For me it also gives the ability to swing shorter -but with a feeling of power.
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Thanks Martee,
The feeling I get when using the" missing piece " move is of no move to the right -just rotating onto the left leg.Video tells the true story-there is a slight move to the right. One thing is that it does feel like your arms have a lot more room to swing down.For me it also gives the ability to swing shorter -but with a feeling of power.
Do you find any differences in your arm swing in downswing when you use this move? It makes me become more of a hitter ( ie. the way that i aply force to shaft and the consequent effect on the clubface orientation).
Once I am on my left hip and i have all that space for the club and right forearm to move into...I seem to naturally favour a downwards thump with my right forearm...
I have tried it and find that I have an early roll of the left wrist/arm from the top of the backswing...ie. release of accumulator 3 to a position where it is square to the plane...left wrist cocked and arched...at about hip height...then i seem to wack it with my right forearm....
Little of this is intentional.... other than the move onto left hip on backswing....
If I try a sequential release after "the move".... then I do not I can square the clubface enough...
For me when I start, a small shift to the right of the weight. Now I need to go a bit slower or have to think about it a bit, but as the hands reach hip high I move the weight to the forward leg while turning the hips as the club travels to the top.
Now what I found is that when I do it the hip rotation, the right shoulder drops a bit, the shoulder get pulled by the hips and the arms are just extended being pulled around and down to a point the hands get to about hip level. It is when this happens I feel as if I am in the picture that Hogan has in his book on page 95. And then it just into the follow through.
Problem I am experiencing is the start of the hip rotation, either I feel as if the right leg is about float away or if I am to apply or feel any pressure, such as a push off, I feel a strain in the muscles leading to some pain.
Obviously I am doing something wrong or maybe my body is not in the physical condition to support the rotation.
But I am working on it and making some adjustments along with practicing the drills.
To me this pivot sets you up to swing more "out" . . . which is interesting since Mr. Hogan was trying to eliminate the left side and "swung left" as VJ says in the book.
To me this pivot sets you up to swing more "out" . . . which is interesting since Mr. Hogan was trying to eliminate the left side and "swung left" as VJ says in the book.
Which is why I asked earlier if this move was "anti slice"-to me it is not.
If I apply TGM ,ie I move the ball back, I hit a fade
Which is why I asked earlier if this move was "anti slice"-to me it is not.
If I apply TGM ,ie I move the ball back, I hit a fade
Just an idea, but could it be that your low point (left shoulder) position wasn't as far forward relative to the ball with your regular move, so that using the Missing Piece move has the effect of moving the ball back in the stance? I don't have the book with me, but I seem to recall V.J. discussing this.
Maybe a small adjustment in ball position is all you need.
To me this pivot sets you up to swing more "out" . . . which is interesting since Mr. Hogan was trying to eliminate the left side and "swung left" as VJ says in the book.
Is it "more out" or "less over the top" and, therefore, more "on plane"?
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