So maybe the question should be . . . if the pros do in fact cock their right wrists and some do . . . what other components in the stroke allow them to get away with it?
Sweet! Another Bucket and Daryl "dust-up!" I have learned a great deal from the "dialogue" the two of you have shared Can't make an omelette without breaking (non-automatic hatching?) a few eggs!
I qualify under the "two year rule." I had absolutely no clue what I was doing but I had time and enthusiasm. I also lived in the southern hemisphere and had great weather. Unless you live in S. Cal, Florida, or Arizona you are a part-timer! I am watching a wintery-mix fall as we speak I was pretty decent at raquet sports, particularly squash (raquet ball without the ball on speed!) My handicap tumbled along with a lot of my like-minded-golf-obsessed buddies. I too cocked both wrists! During start down the counter clockwise motion in order to go clock-wise ala Bobby Jones was ALL eye-hand and a healthy dose of ignorance!
One of the reasons that people don't improve much is that it takes April-May just to thaw out...and their lack of TGM know how!
Cold in Oklahoma (where the wind does its thing using a straight line delivery path down the plane!)
So maybe the question should be . . . if the pros do in fact cock their right wrists and some do . . . what other components in the stroke allow them to get away with it?
First, I'd like to thank Okie for his support. Okie; thank you. Our experiences must be similar.
Mr. Bucket,
Think outside the box. They don't get away with it. The results of their tournaments don't look any different than the results of any weekly foursome all around the country. It's a crapshoot. Almost anyone of them can win at anytime. Look at their Fairways and G.I.R. Good but on the average nothing to write home about, but some weeks exceptional and others less than average.
Mr. Bucket, if you and I grabbed some Kentucky Fry and played a 5000 yard course, we should hit every fairway and 95% of the greens. You would think that a guy that does it for a living and gets free drinks, equipment, and stretching and massage therapy could do it regularly on a 7000 yard course. My, my? Maybe they aren’t getting away with anything.
The Truth may be (as if they knew any better), that they prefer cocking both Wrists and using their forearms to unload into the ball with simultaneous release, angled hinging and controlled Clubhead Throw-away. Perhaps they think that this procedure with hand-eye coordination and perseverance and torturously hard work will win out in the end. So far it has.
First, I'd like to thank Okie for his support. Okie; thank you. Our experiences must be similar.
Mr. Bucket,
Think outside the box. They don't get away with it. The results of their tournaments don't look any different than the results of any weekly foursome all around the country. It's a crapshoot. Almost anyone of them can win at anytime. Look at their Fairways and G.I.R. Good but on the average nothing to write home about, but some weeks exceptional and others less than average.
Mr. Bucket, if you and I grabbed some Kentucky Fry and played a 5000 yard course, we should hit every fairway and 95% of the greens. You would think that a guy that does it for a living and gets free drinks, equipment, and stretching and massage therapy could do it regularly on a 7000 yard course. My, my? Maybe they aren’t getting away with anything.
The Truth may be (as if they knew any better), that they prefer cocking both Wrists and using their forearms to unload into the ball with simultaneous release, angled hinging and controlled Clubhead Throw-away. Perhaps they think that this procedure with hand-eye coordination and perseverance and torturously hard work will win out in the end. So far it has.
But what the hell do I know anyway? Love ya man.
I don't know man . . . . let's reverse that a lil' bit . . . look at Sergio's scoring average it's like 69. On LONG courses with HARD pins. These guys are Sooooooooooooooo good. I know a cat that is a GREAT player. Played in college. Good golf swing . . . so good that he was on a TV commercial.
The Nationwide Tour has an event at his home course every year. He's played in the Pro Am several times. I asked him "What's the difference in their game and yours?" He said, "It's like the difference between me and a 10 handicapper." Now again this guy is GOOD . . . he's plus. So he can play golf. And he's like a 10 compared to dudes that arent' even IN THE BIG LEAGUES.
So maybe your example should be reversed . . . if me and you eat chicken and go play their 7000 yard course and the Pro eats chicken and goes and plays a 5000 yard course . . . what happens????
We had the Tarheel Tour at my home course. That Tommy 2 Gloves played . . . he shot a 61. Heck I shoot 61 on my course everytime I tee it up . . . after about 12 holes.
Point being . . . these guys that you speak of are in a different galaxy than us.
Why is that???
My answer is
A. THEY ARE TECHICIANS . . . THERE TECHNIQUE IS THE BEST . . . COCKED WRIST OR NOT COCKED.
B. They have talent.
I mean look at Justin Leonard. They measured that cat's driver swing speed. It was like 107. I can scare 107. But I can't scare Justin Leonard on no 5000 yard course or much less a 7000 yard course.
The reason these guys are good is because the have good alignments . . . PERIOD.
Dear Mr. Bucket,
I sincerely agree with you. My hat is off to you for your insightful summary.
My comment about you and I hitting so many fairways and greens on a 5000 yard course may have been a little exaggerated but I figured we could use 3 woods and wedges. That’s only a 275 yards per hole average and I thought that it would be equivalent to a pro playing on 7000 yards. They practice more than us. Please reconsider your comment. I'm sure we could whip any two of them if we played from 5000 and they played from 7000. I'll bet a piece of chicken on it.
Ya know, it would make for very good TV ratings. Better than "The Big Break"! Each week we could feature a new couple of Pros (We'll get the ones that didn't make the cut that weekend). We'll have to come up with a name for the show!!!!!! If they win, then their money goes to Charity, if we win, the crowd gets a Chicken Dinner too!!!
Could you imagine how funny that show could be. I bet Nike would sponsor it. And KFC for sure and a beer company.
Dear Mr. Bucket,
I sincerely agree with you. My hat is off to you for your insightful summary.
My comment about you and I hitting so many fairways and greens on a 5000 yard course may have been a little exaggerated but I figured we could use 3 woods and wedges. That’s only a 275 yards per hole average and I thought that it would be equivalent to a pro playing on 7000 yards. They practice more than us. Please reconsider your comment. I'm sure we could whip any two of them if we played from 5000 and they played from 7000. I'll bet a piece of chicken on it.
Ya know, it would make for very good TV ratings. Better than "The Big Break"! Each week we could feature a new couple of Pros (We'll get the ones that didn't make the cut that weekend). We'll have to come up with a name for the show!!!!!! If they win, then their money goes to Charity, if we win, the crowd gets a Chicken Dinner too!!!
Could you imagine how funny that show could be. I bet Nike would sponsor it. And KFC for sure and a beer company.
I don't know! Would it be our best ball? If it's mono y mono . . . I'd need some strokes I gotta think.
I'll go play my course from the Bagger tees (woops I mean Chick Tees) and report back. I bet I can't break par. My lowest round ever is 73.
You seem a bit more refined than me . . . I doubt Nike'd do much with me . . . they don't make no husky sized pants and nobody'd want to see me in one of them tight stretchy shirts like Tiger sports. There'd be a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.
I may could get a hook up from Converse or Dickies or GrrrrAnimals something like that.
I don't know! Would it be our best ball? If it's mono y mono . . . I'd need some strokes I gotta think.
I'll go play my course from the Bagger tees (woops I mean Chick Tees) and report back. I bet I can't break par. My lowest round ever is 73.
You seem a bit more refined than me . . . I doubt Nike'd do much with me . . . they don't make no husky sized pants and nobody'd want to see me in one of them tight stretchy shirts like Tiger sports. There'd be a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.
I may could get a hook up from Converse or Dickies or GrrrrAnimals something like that.
We'll do fine. Maybe we can get Ted and Yoda on the bags just to be sure. Nike makes all sizes. It's not a beauty contest, low score wins. We'll put it in the rules.
We'll do fine. Maybe we can get Ted and Yoda on the bags just to be sure. Nike makes all sizes. It's not a beauty contest, low score wins. We'll put it in the rules.