I find your verbal opening remarks and smirking facial expressions insulting to serious students of the TGM. I also find your video demonstration amateurish. I think that you should at least stand in front of a video camera and perform "real life" golf motion movements instead of sitting in a chair using a book. It is my belief that one can maintain a level right wrist (without right wrist upcocking), while maintaining a constant right wrist bend, during the backswing motion because of three motion phenomena occurring simultaneously - i) the right elbow is folding and ii) the right upper arm is simultaneously rotating at shoulder level and iii) the upper torso is simultaneously rotating in space. If you don't believe that it is possible, then at least produce a video demonstration using a golf club (used in a golf posture) to illustrate your contrary opinion.
I find your verbal opening remarks and smirking facial expressions insulting to serious students of the TGM. I also find your video demonstration amateurish. I think that you should at least stand in front of a video camera and perform "real life" golf motion movements instead of sitting in a chair using a book. It is my belief that one can maintain a level right wrist (without right wrist upcocking), while maintaining a constant right wrist bend, during the backswing motion because of three motion phenomena occurring simultaneously - i) the right elbow is folding and ii) the right upper arm is simultaneously rotating at shoulder level and iii) the upper torso is simultaneously rotating in space. If you don't believe that it is possible, then at least produce a video demonstration using a golf club (used in a golf posture) to illustrate your contrary opinion.
Jeff.
First of all, my opinion is not a contrary position - it is the correct position. Its fact!
Secondly any serious student of TGM would 'think' and test their idea of the golfing machine text to see if they have the right perception. A serious student doesn't just learn the words without really understanding them. I haven't insulted one serious student of the golfing machine. A serious student should be delighted with listening to me.
Thirdly you are another person who is incapable of taking an intraspective look at the golf stroke. I mean seriously what on earth has the 'upper torso' got to do with this discussion...we are talking about the power package alignments with regards to the right arms mechanics. Stay ontopic if you are capable...
Fourthly - don't tell me what to do. I do these videos with my webcam inorder to better put across my answers and its just as quick as typing out a post. Just tell me whats in it for me to make a production quality video at my own expense and time. The reason I do these is for the fact that it is quick and easy.
First of all, my opinion is not a contrary position - it is the correct position. Its fact!
Secondly any serious student of TGM would 'think' and test their idea of the golfing machine text to see if they have the right perception. A serious student doesn't just learn the words without really understanding them. I haven't insulted one serious student of the golfing machine. A serious student should be delighted with listening to me.
Thirdly you are another person who is incapable of taking an intraspective look at the golf stroke. I mean seriously what on earth has the 'upper torso' got to do with this discussion...we are talking about the power package alignments with regards to the right arms mechanics. Stay ontopic if you are capable...
Fourthly - don't tell me what to do. I do these videos with my webcam inorder to better put across my answers and its just as quick as typing out a post. Just tell me whats in it for me to make a production quality video at my own expense and time. The reason I do these is for the fact that it is quick and easy.
Mathew,
I'm a serious student. You're insulting, rude and immature.
From what I've seen on video. There may be some confusion between the right wrist being level and uncocked!!! In it's normal address position level and straight...the right wrist may appear to looked slightly cocked (looking at the wrist from a normal visual vertical condition)....but it's level (when viewed from a horizontal condition). It's the natural condition of the right wrist....actually for both wrists.
serious- thoughtful or subdued in appearance or manner.
student- one who directs zeal at a subject.
insulting- to treat with insolence, indignity, or contempt.
rude- lacking refinement or delicacy.
immature- lacking complete growth, differentiation, or development.
left wrist action- see 10-18
right wrist action-?
OK ... lets see if this makes it a lil easier to understand...
Mathew,
I'm with you on the variable right wrist bend, no problem there as long as the ultimate goal is to arrive at impact with the intended degree of bend as established at impact fix. In fact, variability in bend is necessary for swingers starting from adjusted address.
In terms of the right wristcock, a swinger loads against the right forearm which may or may not be "on plane" at the end. (That is, directly opposed the the plane of the left wristcock motion through release). It's a structural alignment. The hitter loads the same way but, the right forearm is "on plane" against the loading and the right forearm flying wedge is aligned.
That said, a swinger can also load like a hitter and theres nothing wrong with it IMHO.
Look forward to your next video but work on being kinder and gentler to your fellow classmates.
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You wrote-: "In terms of the right wristcock, a swinger loads against the right forearm which may or may not be "on plane" at the end. (That is, directly opposed the the plane of the left wristcock motion through release). It's a structural alignment. The hitter loads the same way but, the right forearm is "on plane" against the loading and the right forearm flying wedge is aligned".
Could you please expand on the difference in the right forearm alignments in hitters versus swingers?
Is what you are saying related to the second paragraph on page 96 of the 7th edition where HK writes about the difference between right forearm alignmment in hitters versus swingers. I cannot understand that long second paragraph and I would appreciate a detailed explanation.
You wrote-: "In terms of the right wristcock, a swinger loads against the right forearm which may or may not be "on plane" at the end. (That is, directly opposed the the plane of the left wristcock motion through release). It's a structural alignment. The hitter loads the same way but, the right forearm is "on plane" against the loading and the right forearm flying wedge is aligned".
Could you please expand on the difference in the right forearm alignments in hitters versus swingers?
Is what you are saying related to the second paragraph on page 96 of the 7th edition where HK writes about the difference between right forearm alignmment in hitters versus swingers. I cannot understand that long second paragraph and I would appreciate a detailed explanation.
Thanks,
Jeff.
Maybe in another thread. 7-10 and the Right elbow is a fascinating subject.
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1-H "Because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available - but separately, and probably endlessly." Homer Kelly
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