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Old 01-28-2009, 11:08 AM
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Tracing the plane line with the right index finger using the RFT.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:15 AM
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Tracing the plane line with the right index finger using the RFT.

Thanks mb. This is something I struggle with.

Hey this thread is working already! How do you trace given the parallax? Edz said something about "covering the foot line", I think, may have it wrong.

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Old 01-28-2009, 12:24 PM
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Jeff and Ted really helped me with an on-plane takeaway at Cuscowilla. Hard to believe how 'up' it is. I feel like I'm picking the club almost straight up in front of me while I pivot back.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:36 PM
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Ask a silly question because someone else may be wondering the same thing!
Ok, don't shoot me for my ignorance.

Can someone please explain exactly what is meant by 'tracing' in the phrase, "tracing the plane line with the right index finger"?
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:33 PM
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Ok, don't shoot me for my ignorance.

Can someone please explain exactly what is meant by 'tracing' in the phrase, "tracing the plane line with the right index finger"?
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...ry.php?cat=517 select the Dowels and Wedges video. Watch Yoda trace the plane line with the right index finger.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:50 PM
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Jeff and Ted really helped me with an on-plane takeaway at Cuscowilla. Hard to believe how 'up' it is. I feel like I'm picking the club almost straight up in front of me while I pivot back.

Oh that old trick. Bet your wallet was missing after that operation. I used to get my wife to bend over to pick things up all the time too, but that was for other reasons.

But seriously now folks. It is a weird revelation, eh Bambam? Here is a little demonstration for the forum. Take a golf like stance. No club. Put your left hand in your pocket (over your wallet if you are at the Swamp). Hold your shoulders level to the target line, dont move em and take your bent right wrist to your top position opposite the right shoulder. Now turn your shoulders and watch the hands go way back.

To arrive at your selected correct top position when doing this drill, you need to first take your right hand "up" and "back" but hardly "in" at all, prior to the shoulders turning and taking the hands back.

Conclusion: the pivot provides the "in" of the three dimensional takeaway. Backwards, up and in. This to me is what the "marching time" McDonald drill is all about. The separation of the upper and lower bodies direction of movement. The are co ordinated, but aligned in different directions that net out on the inclined plane.

Yoda can advise on how to make this all automatic, hands to pivot, educated hands controlling the pivot etc. Im still thinking about it all personally. My hands still in school and all.

Caveat emptor and out.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
To arrive at a correct top position, turned shoulder plane for instance, you need to first take your right hand "up" and "back" but hardly "in" at all.
Good post, OB. It was a strange revelation. It also gave me a wicked case of the shanks that took me a couple weeks to shake, but just like every other time I've been to the swamp, my game ultimately improved because of the change.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:43 PM
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Is what you are describing a "Turning Shoulder Plane" procedure, OB?
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:46 PM
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Is what you are describing a "Turning Shoulder Plane" procedure, OB?

Hey BBax.

Wasnt trying to but I see how you might have thought that. I have edited my previous post slightly to correct that.

The demonstration was really just to show that regardless of your chosen plane angle the "in" of the three dimensional takeaway is mainly attributable to the pivot.

The arms go up , the pivot goes back. They net out in some manner.

You could do the demo in another manner. With just your right arm and no club, swing back to top as per your normal swing. Then return your shoulders to a parallel to the line position while holding your hand in the air as at top. Your right arm and hand will move considerably closer to the plane line. The degree of "in" you have lost is the degree supplied by the pivot. It will be most of it.

Now when your hands are educated , hands to pivot, the brain sends the hands to their desired place and the pivot follows along accordingly , perfectly without us being conscious of it at all. Like reaching, grabbing for something. We do this all the time and should do it when golfing too.

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Old 01-29-2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bambam View Post
Good post, OB. It was a strange revelation. It also gave me a wicked case of the shanks that took me a couple weeks to shake, but just like every other time I've been to the swamp, my game ultimately improved because of the change.
I am still flighting the "IN" element...more more hints please.
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