Release and Impact (assuming the Ball located prior to Low Point) are "swinging right". Follow-Through and Finish are "swinging left".
Per 1-L #13, the Club moves "down and out" to Low Point. Thereafter, per 1-L #15, it moves "up and in". In both instances, per 1-L #9, it is simply moving in a circle.
Fortunately, to accomplish the above, all you have to do is keep your Head Stationary and point the Clubshaft/Sweetspot/Lag Pressure at the Straight Plane Line (1-L #6, 2-0/B #3 and 2-N-0).
this is a very interesting topic. Lee Buck was h-e-double-hockey-sticks on wheels with the short irons. I'm not sure that he would be as effective today considering the way the courses are set up with the longer clubs. According to his book he aimed the face LEFT and then tried to loop under and hit a pushy cut. That in conjunction with the turned left hand goes will with not "releasing the face" as he talks about in the video. So basically he had to get a bunch of shaft lean to A) get the face open so he didn't hit snipes and B) so he didn't have the face rotating shut and pulling the ball left. 10-2-D grips require NO ROLLING UNTIL AFTER SEPARATION. Any rolling with a face looking left and turned grip ='s snipe hook city. All that lean is great for hitting short clubs and low shots but not so much with 5 iron and up. I just wonder if he knew about Mr. Kelley's idea of taking the grip at Fix if he could have took some of that shaft lean requirement out and hit the long irons up in the air more?
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He was one of the first, I remember anyways ,with a high lofted fairway wood. A little seven wood if memory serves me. He'd have a bag full of rescue clubs today probably.
I saw him play at the Canadian Open back in the 70's he'd hit his drivers so low, they'd whistle as they passed you, climb steadily and fall off to the right. I remember my mom saying they looked a jet taking off. On one hole he kicked up a grass tee, like an old time place kick in school yard football, and hit a driver, knuckle ball. He was a shot maker to the extreme. I was one of Lee's Flees back then. He'd talk to anyone, anytime, to himself didnt matter. People loved him.
So was he angled hinging? Im seeing him stopping at top too if you know where Im going. Not a lot of left wrist cock with that bowed wrist. Lots of thrust with that right arm?
I love this photo of him at impact with a driver that Bucket posted a while back. Look at that right forearm pointing way way down the line! That bent right wrist! That is one awesome RFFW.
Im wondering if that bowed left wrist he displayed in the video (the flat left wrist with an hefty insurance policy on it) while great at impact for short shots caused him fits when he took it (still bowed) to top with a long club? The loop, push being his compensating move? Do you think that is the main consideration in the evolution of his action? The bow in response to the hardpan and winds of his Texas golf course?
Here are some more photos this time with a longer iron. You'll note in the down the line frames 10 and 11, that he has released the club more down the line and is not "swinging left" as he does with his shorter shots. His right wrist angle has straightened out a little due to the heavier forces upon it maybe?
Im still wondering about these releases but maybe this is best left for its own thread. I do however remember him saying once after he hit a short iron slightly long, "Ahh, over released it".
Release and Impact (assuming the Ball located prior to Low Point) are "swinging right". Follow-Through and Finish are "swinging left".
Per 1-L #13, the Club moves "down and out" to Low Point. Thereafter, per 1-L #15, it moves "up and in". In both instances, per 1-L #9, it is simply moving in a circle.
Fortunately, to accomplish the above, all you have to do is keep your Head Stationary and point the Clubshaft/Sweetspot/Lag Pressure at the Straight Plane Line (1-L #6, 2-0/B #3 and 2-N-0).
So would it be right to think of the "hold off" or "swinging left" on display in Lee's wedge shots as simply angled or vertical hinging with its shorter associated travel length for the clubhead?
In other words are the different "releases" of common golf speak what we here would simply call hinge action? The full down the line release being horizontal hinging etc. Or is there more to it?
So would it be right to think of the "hold off" or "swinging left" on display in Lee's wedge shots as simply angled or vertical hinging with its shorter associated travel length for the clubhead?
In other words are the different "releases" of common golf speak what we here would simply call hinge action? The full down the line release being horizontal hinging etc. Or is there more to it?
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Is he swinging left, or swinging up the plane line that he has set up left of the target?
Kevin
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Is he swinging left, or swinging up the plane line that he has set up left of the target?
Kevin
"Swinging left" as I understand it anyways, doesnt really mean you swing on a plane line bent to the left. Its more the feeling associated with a maintenance of the bend in the right hand and a hold off of the club as the club head and HANDS travel up and in post low point. Its this feeling of the hands going "in" or left that is being referred to in "swinging left". Arguably a terrible name given that the golfing world is already plagued with cross line, out to in swing paths, "roundhousing".
The MORAD fella's have their CF and CP releases, other teachers have their "swinging level left" release vs a "down the line release". Im wondering if this is just really different hinge actions with their various clubhead travel distances at both arms straight?
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