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Old 05-04-2009, 09:59 AM
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Would you please share some ideas of how you got there? Mirror work, Ted putting you there??? Any special thoughts or "feels?"
Impact fix! That's how high your hands need to be for your right forearm to be on plane. If your right arm is straight or virtually straight at setup with low hands, you'll have to get some bend in there like Richie3Jack.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:05 AM
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Impact fix! That's how high your hands need to be for your right forearm to be on plane. If your right arm is straight or virtually straight at setup with low hands, you'll have to get some bend in there like Richie3Jack.
Thanks BamBam,

I have saved the pic of Richie at setup, and I'm going to look at it first thing EVERY morning, and work my tail off until I get there!

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Old 05-04-2009, 10:44 AM
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Kevin,

Here's a pic of my old address position.



Ted & I worked on the right forearm on plane at address in our 2nd lesson together (we've only had 4 lessons so far). Ted originally put me in the position and then I had to feel it. The feel I sort of use is that I just bend the right elbow at address. In fact, it pretty much feels like I'm bending the right elbow 'into my right hip joint.'

I had some problems with setting my hands high and then getting the right forearm on plane at address. It was getting my left shoulder 'up high' at address, so Ted corrected that. So basically I 'leave the left arm hanging' at address and then 'bend the right elbow into my right hip' and I'm good to go.

Now, we're getting me more into right forearm tracing. Since getting the right forearm on plane is feeling natural to me now, I now try to feel like that #3 PP is holding a laser pointer or a flashlight and has to trace the plane line.

Lastly, I record my swing quite a bit. Probably every other practice session. I'm not expecting to hit it like Ben Hogan, but I'm just constantly checking that I'm doing what we went over with on our last lesson or I'm headed in the right direction.





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Old 05-04-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie3Jack View Post
Kevin,

Here's a pic of my old address position.



Ted & I worked on the right forearm on plane at address in our 2nd lesson together (we've only had 4 lessons so far). Ted originally put me in the position and then I had to feel it. The feel I sort of use is that I just bend the right elbow at address. In fact, it pretty much feels like I'm bending the right elbow 'into my right hip joint.'

I had some problems with setting my hands high and then getting the right forearm on plane at address. It was getting my left shoulder 'up high' at address, so Ted corrected that. So basically I 'leave the left arm hanging' at address and then 'bend the right elbow into my right hip' and I'm good to go.

Now, we're getting me more into right forearm tracing. Since getting the right forearm on plane is feeling natural to me now, I now try to feel like that #3 PP is holding a laser pointer or a flashlight and has to trace the plane line.

Lastly, I record my swing quite a bit. Probably every other practice session. I'm not expecting to hit it like Ben Hogan, but I'm just constantly checking that I'm doing what we went over with on our last lesson or I'm headed in the right direction.





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3Jack,

BTW, not that what I think matters, but since you started with Ted your swing has become majorly more solid and looks fantastic. I also really enjoy watching you learn all about TGM. I wouldn't miss a morning of your Blog... Keep up the great work, and thanks for sharing what you are learning with us!

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Old 05-04-2009, 01:53 PM
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3Jack,

BTW, not that what I think matters, but since you started with Ted your swing has become majorly more solid and looks fantastic. I also really enjoy watching you learn all about TGM. I wouldn't miss a morning of your Blog... Keep up the great work, and thanks for sharing what you are learning with us!

Kevin
Thanks for kind words. My swing is slowly coming along, which I'll take considering I came off an 8 year layoff from the game. I got back into the game in January and played to a 4.3 handicap. I got with Ted in February and I'm down to a 1.0.

When I played at Coastal Carolina I worked with a GSED that had me using a swinging pattern. I find hitting much more consistent. I actually tried to read TGM back in college, but only understood about 4 pages of it. Now I'd say I *understand* about 80% of it and while I'm using a hitting pattern, for me just being able to know the different components that other patterns can or may use has helped because it clears up the fog. No more of the 'well, so and so does this in his swing and it works but I do this instead...maybe I should try what he's doing.'

Talk about an exercise in futility.





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Old 05-04-2009, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Thanks BamBam,

I have saved the pic of Richie at setup, and I'm going to look at it first thing EVERY morning, and work my tail off until I get there!

Kevin
It'll feel a little strange at first, but it's really a very natural position of the arms. As Richie said, once you get it, anything else will feel odd.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:24 PM
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Thanks guys. I'm just extremely lazy with my set up alignments. If I work at it, I get there. The difference in solidness of contact, and trajectory, direction is amazing. Finally I understand the feel of tracing with the right forearm, and with a solid set up, the pivot is taking care of itself. Setting up with the hands low, I thought I understood... Back to basics. Chapter 12 here I come!

Oops, just realized I'm in the swingers forum, hope I don't get a rash...

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The Smart Stick really explains right forearm tracing quite well with the videos of Martin Hall. I'm thinking about getting one myself.




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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Thanks guys. I'm just extremely lazy with my set up alignments. If I work at it, I get there. The difference in solidness of contact, and trajectory, direction is amazing. Finally I understand the feel of tracing with the right forearm, and with a solid set up, the pivot is taking care of itself. Setting up with the hands low, I thought I understood... Back to basics. Chapter 12 here I come!

Oops, just realized I'm in the swingers forum, hope I don't get a rash...

Kevin
A focus on the 'level' right wrist can really help the rest fall right into place. If you right wrist is level, the right forearm tends to be in the proper position (assuming clubs that fit you properly)
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:15 PM
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A focus on the 'level' right wrist can really help the rest fall right into place. If you right wrist is level, the right forearm tends to be in the proper position (assuming clubs that fit you properly)
Nice tip Ed. My right wrist is a little cocked, think Fuzzy Zoeller. Feeling a level right wrist is a big change in my feels, and doing mirror work it seems to get me into position.

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