
05-17-2009, 07:37 PM
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Sad Ending
Originally Posted by Augusta Golf
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Thanks Augusta Golf...
I was in Borders today and found the new book on Homer...it's funny, you can find this new bio on Homer but you can't find a copy of the 7th edition in any Borders or Barnes and Noble store.
I thumbed through the book and was surprised to discover Homer and Ben Doyle had a major falling out towards the end of Homer's life...and Bobby Clampett and Homer never met in person only communication by phone.
DG
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05-17-2009, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
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Thanks Augusta Golf...
I was in Borders today and found the new book on Homer...it's funny, you can find this new bio on Homer but you can't find a copy of the 7th edition in any Borders or Barnes and Noble store.
I thumbed through the book and was surprised to discover Homer and Ben Doyle had a major falling out towards the end of Homer's life...and Bobby Clampett and Homer never met in person only communication by phone.
DG
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Hi DG,
Does the author identify and quote sources?
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05-25-2009, 03:02 PM
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Ending of Book
The book was very interesting and enjoyable.
BUT the ending should have been about Lynnblakegolf.com
In my opinion Lynn is the real revival to the Golfing Machine.
The book mentions that Morgan Presel knows nothing about
Homer Kelley and has never read the book, makes one wonder.
How could one study the principles of the The Golfing
Machine for years and never find the interest to read the
book? I wonder why Martin Hall did not not bring the
Homer Kelley termanology into his teaching for her?
Although I enjoyed the book, I feel that Lynn Blake
did not get the credit he deserved for bringing the
Golfing Machine out for all to see.
Donn Kerby
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05-25-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dkerby
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The book was very interesting and enjoyable.
BUT the ending should have been about Lynnblakegolf.com
In my opinion Lynn is the real revival to the Golfing Machine.
The book mentions that Morgan Presel knows nothing about
Homer Kelley and has never read the book, makes one wonder.
How could one study the principles of the The Golfing
Machine for years and never find the interest to read the
book? I wonder why Martin Hall did not not bring the
Homer Kelley terminology into his teaching for her?
Although I enjoyed the book, I feel that Lynn Blake
did not get the credit he deserved for bringing the
Golfing Machine out for all to see.
Donn Kerby
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I'm not saying this about Martin Hall, because I don't know him or what he teaches. But most TGM Golf Instructors who don't completely understand the Concepts re-invent the method. They need to "fill-in-their-knowledge-gaps" with other methods to complete the picture. This leads them not to abandon TGM altogether, but modify it in way they Claim is more easier for the average Joe to understand. But over simplifying just makes it harder.
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1-B....Treating a complex subject or action as though it were simple, multiplies its complexity because of the difficulty in systematizing missing and unknown factors and elements. Demanding that golf instruction be kept simple does not make it simple – only incomplete and ineffective. Unless this is recognized, golf remains vague, frustrating, infuriating form of exertion.
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05-25-2009, 08:48 PM
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IMHO, TGM is about the teacher not the student. The student does not need to know about Homer Kelley although that would be rewarding.
Originally Posted by dkerby
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The book was very interesting and enjoyable.
BUT the ending should have been about Lynnblakegolf.com
In my opinion Lynn is the real revival to the Golfing Machine.
The book mentions that Morgan Presel knows nothing about
Homer Kelley and has never read the book, makes one wonder.
How could one study the principles of the The Golfing
Machine for years and never find the interest to read the
book? I wonder why Martin Hall did not not bring the
Homer Kelley termanology into his teaching for her?
Although I enjoyed the book, I feel that Lynn Blake
did not get the credit he deserved for bringing the
Golfing Machine out for all to see.
Donn Kerby
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05-26-2009, 10:21 AM
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I read it and liked it
I just finished the book and I liked it very much. I learned a lot about Mr. Kelley and even if some of the TGM terms are not exactly right (said locked instead of cocked in one spot that I remember) it was a fun, fast read.
I really liked the story of how Mr. Kelley worked on the ideas (or carots as he called them), how he found Diane to be his model, and how the book got published and used. If you are into TGM and want some more information on Homer then get the book. I can't attest to how accurate the information is and I am sure there are other errors but this is one of the few biographies that I have totally enjoyed cover to cover.
All in all, I thought it was very well done and would recommend it to anyone who is interested in TGM. I even bought an extra copy to send to my brother in law (he is a TGM devotee from way back....got me hooked).
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Last edited by kmmcnabb : 05-26-2009 at 10:25 AM.
Reason: missing parenthesis
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05-28-2009, 09:34 PM
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I'm reading it now and I'm about halfway through.
Its pretty enjoyable.
I especially liked the part where Homer went to the library to check out a book on how to write a book and get it published and none existed.
He immediately decided after writing his book and getting it published he would write a book about how to write a book and get it published.
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05-28-2009, 09:48 PM
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Otoh
Originally Posted by DOCW3
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IMHO, TGM is about the teacher not the student. The student does not need to know about Homer Kelley although that would be rewarding.
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One problem with MHO, which has been brought to my attention, is that Mr Kelley intended that his book "serve as the Duffer's Bible, the Golf Nut's Catalog, the Circuit Player's Handbook and the Instructor's Textbook." 
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05-28-2009, 10:58 PM
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Book on Homer and TGM
Just finished reading Scott Gummers book on Homer & TGM, found it very interesting story on Homer and TGM.
I have 5 versions of TGM my first 3rd edition I just sold, but wish I hadn't since reading this book. Seem's that 6th edition was the last Homer peersonally updated, and the 3rd was his best.
All in all, I think Scott Gummers the author did a nice job.
Ironically, I had 1/2 day lessons with two of Homer's first AI's
Ben Doyle and Tom Tomesello, neither of which could help my overly long swing. I know that TT was a hitter and Ben teaches swinging, I know TGM's 3 basic imperatives are correct but I still "flip" my wrist too much.
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05-28-2009, 11:46 PM
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Im almost at the end of the book. Had to put it down for a while after reading about Bobby Clampett's loss at The Open.
I find it to be a great story and very well written.
The only question I have so far, is that while Homer did shoot 77 some five months after his first proper game, I dont believe it was his second time out as suggested. Anyone have an opinion on this?
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