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[quote=Daryl;64527]These five professionals provide a new composite. I've been wondering how posture is related (if) to a golfers overall method of increasing clubhead speed and/or power. Balance? Or could posture be related to their Start-up Take-away?
How Many On-Plane Right Forearms Do you See?
How Many Golf Clubs are on an Elbow Plane At Address?
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OK look at these very very good golfers in their address postures..........which one has to move their HEAD the most to get their right forearm and clubshaft on the same plane? This is a Zone 1 problem.
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05-30-2009, 11:54 PM
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[quote=O.B.Left;64537]
Originally Posted by Daryl
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These five professionals provide a new composite. I've been wondering how posture is related (if) to a golfers overall method of increasing clubhead speed and/or power. Balance? Or could posture be related to their Start-up Take-away?
How Many On-Plane Right Forearms Do you See?
How Many Golf Clubs are on an Elbow Plane At Address?
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OK look at these very very good golfers in their address postures..........which one has to move their HEAD the most to get their right forearm and clubshaft on the same plane? This is a Zone 1 problem.
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OK . . . I'm not sure that I'm ready to say that the head has to move to get the right forearm on plane here . . . could be . . . but do you think moving from Fix to Standard Address requires the head to Bob? I may be wrong about this but I'd be willing to bet a handful of Mike O's toenails that these cats get the Right Forearm On-Plane.
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05-31-2009, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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OK look at these very very good golfers in their address postures..........which one has to move their HEAD the most to get their right forearm and clubshaft on the same plane? This is a Zone 1 problem.
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I'm clueless.
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Check out these B&A photos.
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More upright posture promotes a flatter Swing Plane?
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05-31-2009, 05:46 AM
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[quote=12 piece bucket;64538]
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OK . . . I'm not sure that I'm ready to say that the head has to move to get the right forearm on plane here . . . could be . . .
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You think that Byron's head would have moved as much is he was not elbow plane through impact ??
Both these guys like right elbow bend too!
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05-31-2009, 06:10 AM
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Ok. Could someone please tell me what moving the head and elbow plane is about? Are you saying that the Head must Lower?
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05-31-2009, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Ok. Could someone please tell me what moving the head and elbow plane is about? Are you saying that the Head must Lower?
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You think they doing it for fun??  ...I am sure of nothing except...
It is a consistent feature of players with upright postures at adjusted address who are skillful enough to get the right forearm on plane at impact with lag etc...
If you start from an impact address then it doesn't arise IMO... but luckily I know how low i hold that opinion so nobody needs to get too upset if they think I am spouting "pigt" on this one...
Warning:- For over 18s with a sense of humour who are not offended by the english language and have been frustrated by predictive text messaging on mobile phones  :-
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05-31-2009, 08:01 AM
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I have become totally enamored with the right forearm on plane at set up. Now I'm trying to figure out why so many argue against it? What are the down sides?
It has helped me TREMENDOUSLY, and is something I never even thought about until studying Brian Gay's swing on Yoda's video.
We have a member at my club who is a multiple winner on the LPGA, and has played in several Solheim Cups. She is known as an excellent ball striker who is a bit weak in the putting department. I was watching her hit balls yesterday, guess where she sets her right forearm?
Not only does she set it right on plane EVERY TIME, but she was doing a slow motion drill that looked a lot like right forearm tracing. I didn't say anything or ask any questions as I don't want to say anything that would freak her out if she's fragile. Her teacher is Sam Carmichael from Indiana University. Does anyone know if he is TGM based?
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05-31-2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter
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We have a member at my club who is a multiple winner on the LPGA, and has played in several Solheim Cups. .. I didn't say anything or ask any questions as I don't want to say anything that would freak her out if she's fragile.
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Not sure what fragile looks like in your part of the world Kev...but she sounds like she can handle a question or two !!
Sergio sets it up on plane when at preliminary address too..then adjusts himself to start swing with the shaft below forearm...but he sets the club every time on plane in preliminary address.
I still feel that you set the head and body angles with it on plane...then do whatever...arrange your wedges somehow and then thwumppp....
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06-02-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter
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Not only does she set it right on plane EVERY TIME, but she was doing a slow motion drill that looked a lot like right forearm tracing. I didn't say anything or ask any questions as I don't want to say anything that would freak her out if she's fragile. Her teacher is Sam Carmichael from Indiana University. Does anyone know if he is TGM based?
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Lady in "Red"?
BTW, side track a bit...what did Momoko Ueda do with the right forearm here:-
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05-31-2009, 12:57 PM
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[quote=golfbulldog;64548]
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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You think that Byron's head would have moved as much is he was not elbow plane through impact ??
Both these guys like right elbow bend too!
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Byron's head moves down because of the patented dippy knees . . . Hogan also had his head move down in the backstroke to. Certainly you want to have a "steady" head . . . but if you think about it this way if the hips go forward you head is likely to go down some . . . if you bend a stick the top of it goes down. I'm sure we can find plenty of examples of heads that don't go down . . . regardless . . . these two gentlemen flat planed the golf club . . . thru the ball the clubs don't deviate much . . . Hello 3 Functions . . . Meet Mr. Hogan and Mr. Nelson.
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