I 'swing'. My stroke almost feels like I'm backhanding the ball with the back of my left wrist. I tried to trace the plane line and couldn't get it to work with my putting. Ted and I went over the more SBST-ish stroke and I followed some of Yoda's advice where Lee Trevino talks about him having '2 clubfaces' that he works with...the clubface at the end of his club and the top of his left hand. Basically the clubface goes in the same direction as the top of the left hand.
So basically I just backhand the putter and feel like the top of my left hand is facing the target throughout the stroke and it's helped quite a bit.
I 'swing'. My stroke almost feels like I'm backhanding the ball with the back of my left wrist. I tried to trace the plane line and couldn't get it to work with my putting. Ted and I went over the more SBST-ish stroke and I followed some of Yoda's advice where Lee Trevino talks about him having '2 clubfaces' that he works with...the clubface at the end of his club and the top of his left hand. Basically the clubface goes in the same direction as the top of the left hand.
So basically I just backhand the putter and feel like the top of my left hand is facing the target throughout the stroke and it's helped quite a bit.
3JACK
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Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I use a piston stroke on fast greens and add vertical hinge to that on slow greens for more pop. My right hand is the power and guidence, my left hand just hitches a ride and keeps me awake and on the road while I'm driving or in this case putting..
I also forgot to mention that I use vertical hinge. I went on a TOMI and the 'new stroke' had a slight arc to it, very good. Probably looking to get on a SAM Puttlab in November to see all of the dimensions of the new stroke.
It varies. Some days I hit. Other days I just apply extensior action and rock the shoulders. High on the priority list is lag pressure control, monitoring for constant pressure at pp 1, 2, 3 and a setup / timing that produces an angled hinge action that is more vertical than horizontal.
I learned a few years ago that focussing on just getting the ball into the hole is far more important during play than aiming for a technical optimal stroke.
But when I practice putting it's all about target line alignment, lag pressure control and a proper hinge action.
I 'swing'. My stroke almost feels like I'm backhanding the ball with the back of my left wrist. I tried to trace the plane line and couldn't get it to work with my putting. Ted and I went over the more SBST-ish stroke and I followed some of Yoda's advice where Lee Trevino talks about him having '2 clubfaces' that he works with...the clubface at the end of his club and the top of his left hand. Basically the clubface goes in the same direction as the top of the left hand.
So basically I just backhand the putter and feel like the top of my left hand is facing the target throughout the stroke and it's helped quite a bit.
3JACK
What starts your backswing? Left side, or right? Shoulders or arms? Do you feel right forearm takeaway?
Also, do you consider your stroke a shoulder stroke, using Acc#4?
I used to have a pure shoulder stroke then went to a straight left arm, extensor action and right shoulder stroke, then went to pure hitting ...................now....
Ok this is going to sound a little weird. I dont like a pure shoulder stroke, it gets my knees moving and feels stiff. So, I putt with my arms, Zone 2 and execute a hinge action. Both arms bent, but the elbows bending a touch. I have two methods, shoulders still and shoulders moving. If my shoulders arent moving at all, Im hitting, I guess. If my shoulders are moving, Im swinging, maybe. This last one may be a blended stroke perhaps but I dont feel like the shoulders really power anything, they just sort of follow along but only slightly as my core stays still. Like there was a little play in the shoulder frame.
Zone 2 putting. I love it, for the time being.
Reminds me of that old joke. "First there was John Cougar. Then John Cougar Mellancamp, then John Mellancamp AND now for the first time, we present.... John Mellan Cougarcamp"
I used to have a pure shoulder stroke then went to a straight left arm, extensor action and right shoulder stroke, then went to pure hitting ...................now....
Ok this is going to sound a little weird. I dont like a pure shoulder stroke, it gets my knees moving and feels stiff. So, I putt with my arms, Zone 2 and execute a hinge action. Both arms bent, but the elbows bending a touch. I have two methods, shoulders still and shoulders moving. If my shoulders arent moving at all, Im hitting, I guess. If my shoulders are moving, Im swinging, maybe. This last one may be a blended stroke perhaps but I dont feel like the shoulders really power anything, they just sort of follow along but only slightly as my core stays still. Like there was a little play in the shoulder frame.
Zone 2 putting. I love it, for the time being.
Reminds me of that old joke. "First there was John Cougar. Then John Cougar Mellancamp, then John Mellancamp AND now for the first time, we present.... John Mellan Cougarcamp"
Thank you, O.B., for all your wonderful contributions to our site. I am enjoying your journey (almost) as much as you are!
Id never have ended up where I am now without your guidance. Not in a hundred golf lifetimes of self discovery, trial and error and golf magazines. Left to my own devices I'd probably discover Extensor Action around the year 3,269.
I was paired up with a fellow yesterday who I had played with about 5 years ago. At the end of the round he said to me "what the heck have you done? You're so much better than you used to be". I was a three back then so it wasnt like I was terrible but I took it as a compliment and responded with two words "Lynn Blake" and wrote out your website's address for him on his scorecard.
Whatever I have golf wise I owe to you and Homer Kelley.
Geez, I love this stuff.
For what it is worth, I have gone to being a hitter in putting. I line up very slightly open with eyes just inside the target line.
Push Elbow with pp#3 or 1 in focus with hands ahead a bit to think of Rolling the ball with my right hand and the top of the blade striking the ball first.
I have a whole new confidence in putting and best of all, I have a formula I can replicate.
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