Had to use a Hammer today
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11-23-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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The Three Stations by definition are Address, Top and Finish. End is just some extra gravy on the potatoes for those who like it.
When I was at the practice tee of the 2008 Masters I was really struck by how many of the pros stopped at Top for an Iron shot. They went to End with the drivers maybe. I think most amateurs take it too far back for an iron shot, even a long iron. You really dont need that extra travel up there. It gives you a little Delivery Path Hand "arc" up there between Top and End too as the hands go past the point where they can travel a relatively straight line to the aiming point.
Combining the advantages of stopping at Top with Homers advice to sustain the rate of acceleration with steady, smooth acceleration makes G.O.L.F. much more manageable, consistent and easy. And not at the expense of power either given a small pulley wheel. Weird but wonderful, again.
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Ok, but what I was getting at is that maybe Single wrist action cannot travel to end? If you try, maybe it gets bent out of shape or something??
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11-23-2009, 02:47 PM
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Dont think so. Going to End would move the pp #3 down into the knuckle, add an Arc to the Delivery Path between Top and End, necessitate some Lag or Float Loading. Although these variations are more 12-2 than 12-1 you can still be Hitting and do those things. There is some mid ground in the Hit/Swing spectrum. Although 12-1 kept things quite distinct from 12-2.
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11-23-2009, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter
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If the left wrist got to vertical too early, wouldn't #3 have released prior to #2? Not good...
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I don't think it actually works like that . . . you got "released" and "releasING". Obviously the sequence is 4-1-2-3 . . . HOWEVER it doesn't mean that each accumulator is released fully before the next one fires . . . 4 starts to go first in the chain but she don't go all the way to in-line at impact or the primary lever assembly wouldn't lean on the ball.
But I think the point Mr. Kelley was trying to make was/is . . . the wrist conditions are Flat Level Vertical at Impact right . . . so once the wrist reaches it's vertical condition . . then #2 is pretty much uncocking vertical at that point . . . if you never got your wrist back to vertical you be uncocking the hosel at the ball. {Now that deal make work a bit different with a 10-2-D grip because essentially Turned is vertical there.) Try the motion really slow from say club at say toe up in the release . . . swivel the wrist into its vertical alignment from there . . the plane of the uncocking is dang close to the vertical hammering motion (as #4 continues to release, pivot goes forward, and #3 continues to go).
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11-23-2009, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I don't think it actually works like that . . . you got "released" and "releasING". Obviously the sequence is 4-1-2-3 . . . HOWEVER it doesn't mean that each accumulator is released fully before the next one fires . . . 4 starts to go first in the chain but she don't go all the way to in-line at impact or the primary lever assembly wouldn't lean on the ball.
But I think the point Mr. Kelley was trying to make was/is . . . the wrist conditions are Flat Level Vertical at Impact right . . . so once the wrist reaches it's vertical condition . . then #2 is pretty much uncocking vertical at that point . . . if you never got your wrist back to vertical you be uncocking the hosel at the ball. {Now that deal make work a bit different with a 10-2-D grip because essentially Turned is vertical there.) Try the motion really slow from say club at say toe up in the release . . . swivel the wrist into its vertical alignment from there . . the plane of the uncocking is dang close to the vertical hammering motion (as #4 continues to release, pivot goes forward, and #3 continues to go).
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Makes complete sense, thanks Bucket!
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11-25-2009, 06:29 PM
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i recently changed my mind on the uncock and roll thought that i had always used. i use to uncock and roll at the samle time. i now uncock, uncock, uncock, uncock, then roll. in fact i do not think about the roll, it just happens. the nail i hit on the downswing is a nail that would be on a wall that i would lean against with my left shoulder. i hope that is clear to you. your question is great.
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11-25-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by joe curtis
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i recently changed my mind on the uncock and roll thought that i had always used. i use to uncock and roll at the samle time. i now uncock, uncock, uncock, uncock, then roll. in fact i do not think about the roll, it just happens. the nail i hit on the downswing is a nail that would be on a wall that i would lean against with my left shoulder. i hope that is clear to you. your question is great.
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That's a great description of Uncock and Swivel. If you can do that, then you can roll on any of the three planes at will.
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