Left arm only
Emergency Room - Swingers
|

05-07-2010, 03:27 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,521
|
|
Originally Posted by sasquatch_mn
|
|
Im really struggling w/ this left arm right arm swing concept. Specifically for me, I think i understand the feeling of swinging w/ left arm. Left arm only drills and what that does for you pivot...Where it gets grey is right arms role then...specifically how the the pitch elbow and extensor action fit into this. Is extensor action another way of saying as you stated "right arm role of reinforcing"?. If right arm is passive how do you provide structure of pitch elbow and extensor action?
|
Great question. The Right Arm for a Swinger is Passive. That means that the Right Arm doesn't Accelerate in such a way that it would move either the Primary or Secondary Levers.
During Startdown and the Downstroke, the force placed on the Power Package can be considerable and can collapse its structure (flying Wedges). Extensor Action works by check-reining the Left Arm so the structural alignments remain undisturbed.
Here's how it works.
Make a fist with your Right hand. Extend your Right arm in front of you like you're throwing an uppercut punch (like the Tiger Wood fist pump). Your right elbow is bent and Pitched and the palm of your right fist is facing you.
Grasp your right fist with your left hand and straighten the Left Arm. Now, try to bend your left elbow but resist by not allowing your right elbow to bend any farther. You're using right Triceps Muscle and the force direction is below plane.
As you resist, your right arm is not accelerating and the Power Package becomes rigid enough for the structure to remain stable against Pivot forces. It only requires enough Right Triceps resisting force to maintain a rigid Power Package Structure.
Last edited by Daryl : 05-07-2010 at 03:35 PM.
|
|

05-12-2010, 04:40 PM
|
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Eden Prairie, MN
Posts: 15
|
|
Originally Posted by Daryl
|
Great question. The Right Arm for a Swinger is Passive. That means that the Right Arm doesn't Accelerate in such a way that it would move either the Primary or Secondary Levers.
During Startdown and the Downstroke, the force placed on the Power Package can be considerable and can collapse its structure (flying Wedges). Extensor Action works by check-reining the Left Arm so the structural alignments remain undisturbed.
Here's how it works.
Make a fist with your Right hand. Extend your Right arm in front of you like you're throwing an uppercut punch (like the Tiger Wood fist pump). Your right elbow is bent and Pitched and the palm of your right fist is facing you.
Grasp your right fist with your left hand and straighten the Left Arm. Now, try to bend your left elbow but resist by not allowing your right elbow to bend any farther. You're using right Triceps Muscle and the force direction is below plane.
As you resist, your right arm is not accelerating and the Power Package becomes rigid enough for the structure to remain stable against Pivot forces. It only requires enough Right Triceps resisting force to maintain a rigid Power Package Structure.
|
Ok I believe Im on the right track then as to what extensor action feels in my swing. Although I wish I know what my right arm is doing when theres a ball there??? As far as pitch elbow how does that element in swinging procedure occur? Is it then a biproduct of pivot and pulling from left? I was on the range and really forced my elbow almost to a point in front of the ball at impact. I got some solid strikes w/ wedge but w/ longer clubs didnt work so well. Just something that has contributed to darkening my journey in search of a reliable swing procedure.
Last edited by sasquatch_mn : 05-12-2010 at 04:43 PM.
|
|

05-12-2010, 04:59 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,521
|
|
Originally Posted by sasquatch_mn
|
|
Ok I believe Im on the right track then as to what extensor action feels in my swing. Although I wish I know what my right arm is doing when theres a ball there??? As far as pitch elbow how does that element in swinging procedure occur? Is it then a biproduct of pivot and pulling from left? I was on the range and really forced my elbow almost to a point in front of the ball at impact. I got some solid strikes w/ wedge but w/ longer clubs didnt work so well. Just something that has contributed to darkening my journey in search of a reliable swing procedure.
|
Easy Peasy.
You don't need to force a Pitched Elbow. It occurs automatically if your Elbow doesn't move behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Swing. So, your Right Elbow at the Top of the Swing should appear to point downward somewhat. Your Right Elbow will point Downward at the Top of the Swing when you turn your hands to Plane during Startup. If you don't turn your hands, but keep the Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground, then your Right Elbow will end Up behind, or Pointing Behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Backstroke. So,,,Standard Wrist Action will Load the Secondary Lever and Single Wrist Action will Load the Primary Lever.
If you want to Hit the Ball solid with your driver, then use an AIMing Point 2 inches behind the Ball. Then your Pitched Right Elbow, will pass the Right Hip during the Downswing and your Release Point (Elbow Location at Release) will be somewhere in front of your Right Hip. For short clubs, the AIMing Point is a little ahead of the ball while for longer clubs it's behind the ball.
|
|

05-12-2010, 10:25 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,900
|
|
|
Hi Daryl. Is your aim point in pp#3?
Am I aiming what, two inches behind the ball? The throw down of the vertical left wrist hinge. What are you aiming with?
I imagine the "correct" sensation, or a good sensation, or an effective use of the vertical left wrist in hitting to be something like this...RFT loads the wrist and then the golfer braces into the front foot and sort of glides until they pull with the left tricep and fire the vertical hinge down. It is like a slow, deliberate, ax blow to the base of a tree. A slow, heavy blow that you really step into. Almost like a person steps into a baseball swing.
What do you think? 'Shall I take up arms in opposition to the that little golf ball or shall I, in my mind, continue to suffer
the slings and arrows of ourageously bad technique?'
Patrick
Originally Posted by Daryl
|
Easy Peasy.
You don't need to force a Pitched Elbow. It occurs automatically if your Elbow doesn't move behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Swing. So, your Right Elbow at the Top of the Swing should appear to point downward somewhat. Your Right Elbow will point Downward at the Top of the Swing when you turn your hands to Plane during Startup. If you don't turn your hands, but keep the Left Wrist Vertical to the Ground, then your Right Elbow will end Up behind, or Pointing Behind your Right Hip at the Top of the Backstroke. So,,,Standard Wrist Action will Load the Secondary Lever and Single Wrist Action will Load the Primary Lever.
If you want to Hit the Ball solid with your driver, then use an AIMing Point 2 inches behind the Ball. Then your Pitched Right Elbow, will pass the Right Hip during the Downswing and your Release Point (Elbow Location at Release) will be somewhere in front of your Right Hip. For short clubs, the AIMing Point is a little ahead of the ball while for longer clubs it's behind the ball.
|
__________________
HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
|
|

05-12-2010, 11:13 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,521
|
|
Originally Posted by innercityteacher
|
|
Am I aiming what, two inches behind the ball? The throw down of the vertical left wrist hinge. What are you aiming with?
|
I aim the #3 PP at the rear inside quadrant of the ball.
Originally Posted by innercityteacher
|
|
I imagine the "correct" sensation, or a good sensation, or an effective use of the vertical left wrist in hitting to be something like this...RFT loads the wrist and then the golfer braces into the front foot and sort of glides until they pull with the left tricep and fire the vertical hinge down. It is like a slow, deliberate, ax blow to the base of a tree. A slow, heavy blow that you really step into. Almost like a person steps into a baseball swing.
|
What you describe above sounds like the feeling of a deliberate axe blow to the base of a tree.  But this is Golf and we learn feel from mechanics which are the alignments and force used in any given procedure.
I use the RFT. The RFT Loads the #3 Accumulator. Backswing Loads the #2 Accumulator and the #4 Accumulator is loaded at the End of the Backstroke. If the Length of your Backstroke is a very short Pitch Shot, then My #3 and #4 Accumulators are Loaded. Full Load on #3 Accumulator and ALMOST full Load on #4 Accumulator. The #4 Accumulator is Loaded against the chest at a lower location than when performing a full backstroke. This procedure allows me to use Hip Action to drive the Power Package Downplane. Otherwise you'll need to pull with the Left Arm, which IMHO should only be used with Non-pivot Strokes.
Originally Posted by innercityteacher
|
What do you think? 'Shall I take up arms in opposition to the that little golf ball or shall I, in my mind, continue to suffer
the slings and arrows of ourageously bad technique?'
Patrick
|
Golfers become conditioned to "Suffering".  Seek medical advice. The prescription is "more knowledge". 
Last edited by Daryl : 05-13-2010 at 07:13 AM.
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Hybrid Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:05 PM.
|
| |