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Old 07-28-2010, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Amen Corner View Post
and the wrong about that is.............? what?

isn´t S&T´s motion within the yellow book?
Unfortunately it isn't in the book. Although one can concoct almost any swing procedural combination, the book doesn't specifically address swinging on the elbow plane with its usual and necessary compensations.

The book addresses in great detail, the TSP with an On-Plane delivery of the #3 Pressure Point, Flat Left Wrist, Straight Base Line of the Inclined Plane and Stationary Head; in other words, quite foreign to Elbow Plane Swingers.

It's too bad because the Elbow Plane is a very difficult swing to master and takes an enormous amount of time and effort to become truly proficient. The Standard Patterns in the Yellow book are easier to master and will give almost any golfer a lifetime of pleasure on the golf course.

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Old 07-28-2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Unfortunately it isn't in the book. Although one can concoct almost any swing procedural combination, the book doesn't specifically address swinging on the elbow plane with its usual and necessary compensations.

The book addresses in great detail, the TSP with an On-Plane delivery of the #3 Pressure Point, Flat Left Wrist, Straight Base Line of the Inclined Plane and Stationary Head; in other words, quite foreign to Elbow Plane Swingers.

It's too bad because the Elbow Plane is a very difficult swing to master and takes an enormous amount of time and effort to become truly proficient. The Standard Patterns in the Yellow book are easier to master and will give almost any golfer a lifetime of pleasure on the golf course.
Interesting . . . . took this cat an enormous amount of time to change his pictures . . . 24 hours or so? Eternity . . . .

Did somebody slip some clorox in your crackpipe again?
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Interesting . . . . took this cat an enormous amount of time to change his pictures . . . 24 hours or so? Eternity . . . .

Did somebody slip some clorox in your crackpipe again?
He's taking practice swings on a Driveway. That's a lot different than Golfing. It took Ben Hogan practically a lifetime, Mr. Goat herder, but you're saying that BC has done it overnight.

Ya, it took him 18 hours to go from a swing that needed one modification to one that needs too many to count. I'm sure he'll be grateful once he starts playing with his new swing.

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Old 07-28-2010, 07:07 PM
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He's taking practice swings on a Driveway. That's a lot different than Golfing.

Ya, it took him 18 hours to go from a swing that needed one modification to one that needs too many to count. I'm sure he'll be grateful once he starts playing with his new swing.
Could you please refrain from the corner and the rocking and explain yourself . . .

How can you argue with the improvement in the alignments in those pictures? In the before swing he was inches away from a wipe . . . in the after he's in position to deliver the club down out and forward on plane.

The only thing that was changed was the depth of his handpath . . same startdown . . . just from a point that allows the golf club to move on plane with his motion???

You are coming unglued.

YOU CAN GET WITH THIS . . . .



OR YOU CAN GET WITH THAT . . . .

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Old 07-28-2010, 08:45 PM
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Could you please refrain from the corner and the rocking and explain yourself . . .
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:22 PM
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I like his changes. VEry impressive.

But for his own good, it cant be to his mind anyways just "flatter with more hip turn". He needs to know the Alignments or else he'll be forever searching. One days "flatter" is another days too flat.


Some poor soul once said something like: " The secret to golf is that a one day wonder lasts for five days , so after three days you'd better starting looking for your next one day wonder."

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Old 07-29-2010, 10:00 AM
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Well, it certainly wasn't my intention to ignite an argument by uploading swing progression videos that implemented Bucket's suggestions. The fact of the matter is that I only have a basic understanding of TGM (however, I am slowly learning and always ensure that I look up suggested references in the book), so I found Bucket's post most helpful as he thoroughly guided me through the modifications that he believed my swing required. I am in no way implying that his suggestion is better than anyone elses, it's just that it was an easier process to implement for testing.

With the above being said, I played my first round of competitive golf in three years today and decided to take Bucket's suggestions straight to the course (which is usually a terrible idea without significant practice). I actually played to my handicap for the front nine holes (which was a surprise considering I haven't even practiced my short game or calculated yardages). However, I couldn't complete the back nine holes due to heavy rain and the rest of my group calling it quits (which I was quite disappointed about). Anyway, I spent another hour hitting balls in the rain and can honestly say that my accuracy has improved and my divots are pointing along the target line (or slightly to the right). Whether this is simply the honeymoon period or not is up for debate, but at least for the moment it's an improvement.

I made a similar thread on the ISG (I Seek Golf) forums, which is where Paul Hart (who is the closest AI to my location) regularly posts. It looks as if Paul would prefer a more upright swing as well, so these changes may just be temporary if I end up being taught by Paul.

Ultimately, I sincerely appreciate all the suggestions given to me. I'm even more appreciative if the suggestions are validated with good results.

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Old 07-28-2010, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
It's too bad because the Elbow Plane is a very difficult swing to master and takes an enormous amount of time and effort to become truly proficient. The Standard Patterns in the Yellow book are easier to master and will give almost any golfer a lifetime of pleasure on the golf course.
totally depends on the player and their ability. I know someone who made the change in a couple weeks of hard practice. If you take a 20 cap then you are probably right. I know I can do it and I am pretty much a hack.
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