Seeing the dog reminds me of the Golden our sons had while growing up.
One day he got a package of Jell-O out of the box and into his mouth.
Try as I did I could not pry his jaws open to take that Jell-O pack.
But.
I will never lose to even a dog.
So.
I dragged him over to the garbage bucket, poked a hole in the Jell-O bag and shook him till the packet was empty.
He got to keep the empty bag but I got the Jell-O.
The pitbull drag loading gets most of the attention.
But the main/first part is also interesting.
There was a lot going on there. Is this just an exercise or are there so many moving parts in the basic motion as well? Lifting of the heels, hip rotation, knees ...What did you call it - a marked time motion, if I heard what you said(?) Not sure what that is.
This is the basis motion, you said swinging you arms back and forth (more than two feet it looked like). Looked more like a required motion with so much going on? (But I'm not the expert).
And the followthru (for the total motion). Do you recommend that the front part of the left foot spins out to the left while the heel is turned on the ground as you were demonstrating? When do we use it? I haven't seen this before.
This video seemed different in a way - or have I as usual just problems getting the message?
The pitbull drag loading gets most of the attention.
But the main/first part is also interesting.
There was a lot going on there. Is this just an exercise or are there so many moving parts in the basic motion as well? Lifting of the heels, hip rotation, knees ...What did you call it - a marked time motion, if I heard what you said(?) Not sure what that is.
This is the basis motion, you said swinging you arms back and forth (more than two feet it looked like). Looked more like a required motion with so much going on? (But I'm not the expert).
And the followthru (for the total motion). Do you recommend that the front part of the left foot spins out to the left while the heel is turned on the ground as you were demonstrating? When do we use it? I haven't seen this before.
This video seemed different in a way - or have I as usual just problems getting the message?
Have a look at these videos . . . . when one applies force in significant amounts you'll occasionally see that in some of the best with regards to foot action.
Check these out . . .
Hogan
Snead
Nicklaus
Palmer (check at about 1:00 mark)
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You showed the total motion from these great players. But Yoda showed the basic motion. I didn't know that so much was going on at this first stage.
There is a misunderstanding here, and it is due solely to terminology.
This was a personal video shot several years ago for a specific purpose. Namely, to offer a solution to an injured player (Brian Watts). It was never intended to be posted here. It is here only because of Pluto!
I made no reference to TGM. In fact, the movements shown have their origin in Bob MacDonald (Golf / 1927), not TGM. Within the context of my video message to my player, I stand by my statement in the video that the combined pivot and arm swing constitute the 'basic motion' of the stroke -- its "fundamental nature" -- knowing full well that a strict TGM definition would label the degree of motion as Second Stage (Acquired) or even Third Stage (Total).
Your confusion does make an important point:
What we call things matters.
If we can't agree on what our words mean, what chance do we have communicate?
There is a misunderstanding here, and it is due solely to terminology.
This was a personal video shot several years ago for a specific purpose. Namely, to offer a solution to an injured player (Brian Watts). It was never intended to be posted here. It is here only because of Pluto!
I made no reference to TGM. In fact, the movements shown have their origin in Bob MacDonald (Golf / 1927), not TGM. Within the context of my video message to my player, I stand by my statement in the video that the combined pivot and arm swing constitute the 'basic motion' of the stroke -- its "fundamental nature" -- knowing full well that a strict TGM definition would label the degree of motion as Second Stage (Acquired) or even Third Stage (Total).
Your confusion does make an important point:
What we call things matters.
If we can't agree on what our words mean, what chance do we have communicate?
Ok - glad that's cleared up, so my head doesn't hurt so much.
But - can these movements be used in any way - they gave a good feeling that maybe could be used in the swing in a good way - in the TGM acquired or total swing?
You showed the total motion from these great players. But Yoda showed the basic motion. I didn't know that so much was going on at this first stage.
Dude . . . . Come on man . . . Let's move on from this . . .
Basic Motion is basically 2 feet back and 2 feet thru . . . but BASIC TO ALL MOTIONS IS THE MOTION OF ARMS AND PIVOT . . . and Pivot as defined by Homer Kelley can be full pivot OR NO PIVOT AT ALL . . . that'd be Zero Pivot.
Dude . . . . Come on man . . . Let's move on from this . . .
Basic Motion is basically 2 feet back and 2 feet thru . . . but BASIC TO ALL MOTIONS IS THE MOTION OF ARMS AND PIVOT . . . and Pivot as defined by Homer Kelley can be full pivot OR NO PIVOT AT ALL . . . that'd be Zero Pivot.
Do you have the book?
I have the book, but can't read it (in the right way). If you are getting upset with me - let me know. And regarding understanding - there can be total understanding or no understanding at all -- that'd be Zero Understanding.
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