You're so full of it, you're not worth a second more of my time.
That's a surprising comment. Hey, when the fact's from many different scientific studies are against your assertion of a lagging clubhead at the impact interval either produce data to refute them or just do what you did go into denial.
If you can produce just one ligit study or photo at the impact interval of a lagging clubhead with the shaft in a reverse c position i will admit your correct. Good luck.
From S.Mackenzie
The purpose of this thesis was to determine how shaft stiffness affects clubhead speed and how it alters clubhead orientation at impact. For the first time, a 3D, six-segment forward dynamics model of a golfer and club was developed and optimized to answer these questions. A range of shaft stiffness levels from flexible to stiff were evaluated at three levels of swing speed (38, 45 and 53 m/s). At any level of swing speed, the difference in clubhead speed did not exceed 0.1 m/s across levels of shaft stiffness. Therefore, it was concluded that customizing the stiffness of a golf club shaft to perfectly suit a particular swing will not increase clubhead speed sufficiently to have any meaningful effect on performance. The magnitude of lead deflection at impact increased as shaft stiffness decreased. The magnitude of lead deflection at impact also increased as swing speed increased. For an optimized swing that generated a clubhead speed of 45 m/s, with a shaft of regular stiffness, lead deflection of the shaft at impact was 6.25 cm. The same simulation resulted in a toe-down shaft deflection of 2.27 cm at impact. Using the model, it was estimated that for each centimeter of lead deflection of the shaft, dynamic loft increased by approximately 0.8 degrees. Toe-down shaft deflection had relatively no influence on dynamic loft. For every centimeter increase in lead deflection of the shaft, dynamic closing of the clubface increased by approximately 0.7 degrees. For every centimeter increase in toe-down shaft deflection, dynamic closing of the clubface decreased by approximately 0.5 degrees. The results from this thesis indicate that improvements in driving distance brought about by altering shaft stiffness are the result of altered clubhead orientation at impact and not increased clubhead speed.
There's no doubt that photos of blurry shafts being madly bent are partly due to the cameras inability to keep up.........there's also no doubt that the clubhead will get "slung" back to an inline condition or beyond..... at SOME point through the strike.
However, go watch Boo in swingvision on youtube.......immediately after separation I don't think anyone could dispute that the clubhead is lagging the shaft.
IMHO
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Don't JUST "lean it", BEND IT!!
Btw, I understand that the ground is providing the resistance to make this possible, and would agree with wedgy that you're not gonna pull that position of the shaft off with a driver......
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Don't JUST "lean it", BEND IT!!
There's no doubt that photos of blurry shafts being madly bent are partly due to the cameras inability to keep up.........there's also no doubt that the clubhead will get "slung" back to an inline condition or beyond..... at SOME point through the strike.
However, go watch Boo in swingvision on youtube.......immediately after separation I don't think anyone could dispute that the clubhead is lagging the shaft.
IMHO
Caused by the clubhead hitting the ground, no surprise. That is not the same as what Daryl said, i guess the shaft is going to be ahead of the clubhead in that instance it has no choice.
. . . when the fact's from many different scientific studies are against your assertion of a lagging clubhead at the impact interval either produce data to refute them or just do what you did go into denial.
If you can produce just one ligit study or photo at the impact interval of a lagging clubhead with the shaft in a reverse c position i will admit your correct. Good luck.
Wedgy,
I have no problem with your prior post, and I know your quote above was directed at Daryl, not me. That said . . .
Please don't think you have delivered any sort of 'revelation' in this thread. I don't know how old you are, but I was teaching the scientific "C" Shaft bend you have correctly identified to anybody who would listen for more than thirty years. My guess is that it was before you were born.
You're making a big deal of this point -- and it is a big deal -- but, trust me, it really is a very old deal. It ain't some sort of 'new science' junk.
What's happening here is that the the Sweet Spot is maintaining its straight line and in-line relationship with the #3 Pressure Point (first joint of the right hand index finger). The inertia of the Clubshaft prevents it from keeping up, so it bends forward. However, the stress in the #3 Pressure Point (that senses the Clubshaft stress) remains the same at Impact as it was in Release, regardless of the Clubshaft deflection.
Like I said . . .
Old news . . .
By at least 30 years.
New subject, please, unless you have something to add to this one.
Wedgy Claims: that Clubhead Lag is an "Urban Legend", a "Myth", an "Illusion" and impossible to create. He further claims that all of the golf club "Shaft manufacturers" have a built-in "Fairy" that causes the club shaft to bend in a "C" shape before impact.
Wedgy Claims: that Clubhead Lag is an "Urban Legend", a "Myth", an "Illusion" and impossible to create. He further claims that all of the golf club "Shaft manufacturers" have a built-in "Fairy" that causes the club shaft to bend in a "C" shape before impact.
Strawman argument. Total misrepresentation of what i said. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story, right Daryl.
Strawman argument. Total misrepresentation of what i said. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story, right Daryl.
Not at all Wedgy. You want me to read a 220 document which supposedly supports your point of view because you have NOOO clue what you're talking about. You're an idiot.
Not at all Wedgy. You want me to read a 220 document which supposedly supports your point of view because you have NOOO clue what you're talking about. You're an idiot.
Your funny, ya i want you to read it and learn how wrong you are, there is no lagging clubhead in the impact interval, ever.
Your funny, ya i want you to read it and learn how wrong you are, there is no lagging clubhead in the impact interval, ever.
Clubhead lagging what exactly? The hands? That is Homers consideration. I sense your talking clubhead lagging the mid section of the shaft.....something else entirely. ( Ya I know, new found perspective is so ...... applicable everywhere)
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