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Old 01-23-2011, 11:54 PM
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Mr. Yoda,

One clatification of that.

Doesn't the book say that you maintain a "stressed shaft" through the impact interval.

When I read that I envisioned the shaft being stressed at start of downsing, and didnt straighten up again till the ball is hit. The c-bening of the shaft seems counter to that, or my understanding of it.

Perhaps thats a part of the confusion?
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:13 AM
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Mr. Yoda,

One clatification of that.

Doesn't the book say that you maintain a "stressed shaft" through the impact interval.

When I read that I envisioned the shaft being stressed at start of downsing, and didnt straighten up again till the ball is hit. The c-bening of the shaft seems counter to that, or my understanding of it.

Perhaps thats a part of the confusion?
The Shaft remains stressed. It is RESPONDING to Clubhead (Sweetspot) Lag Pressure Point Pressure. It is NOT creating it!

Your understanding was incorrect, but don't be too hard on yourself. the forward-bending concept is very counter-intuitive, both intellectually and in its Feel (Lag Pressure Point Pressure). Power Golf (Ben Hogan / 1948 ) made the "C" Shaft Bend at Impact obvious to all. (Although, for years, the photos were explained as an "illusion". Homer Kelley explained to me in January 1982 exactly what was going on.)

The Clubshaft manufacturers would have us believe that all this "kick" stuff is the product of their wonderful product. The truth is that the Clubshaft responds exactly today as it did 100 years ago. The materials are sturdier and more consistent, but the response to Centrifugal Reaction is the same.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:17 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:20 AM
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The Shaft remains stressed. It is RESPONDING to Clubhead (Sweetspot) Lag Pressure Point Pressure. It is NOT creating it!

Your "understanding" was incorrect, but don't be hard on yourself. the forward-bending concept is VERY counter-intuitive, both intellectually and in its Feel (Lag Pressure Point Pressure). Power Golf (Ben Hogan / 1948 ) made the "C" Shaft Bend at Impact obvious to all. (Although, for years, the photos were explained as an "illusion". Homer Kelley explained to me in January 1982 exactly what was going on.)

The Clubshaft manufacturers would have us believe that all this "kick" stuff is the product of their wonderful product. The truth is that the Clubshaft responds exactly today as it did 100 years ago. The materials may be sturdier and more consistent, but the response to Centrifugal Reaction is the same.


So the shaft remains stressed despite the fact it bends forward, so long as the clubhead lags the hands? Is that correct? I dunno. I just feel it my finger.....and direct it.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:24 AM
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Sweetspot Lag Creates Clubshaft Stress . . . In Several Directions
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So the shaft remains stressed despite the fact it bends forward, so long as the clubhead lags the hands? Is that correct?
There obviously can be exceptions, but in the sense I know you mean it, the answer is yes.

But more correctly, it is the Sweetspot that lags, not Clubhead as a whole. The Sweetspot can be well up the Clubface, particularly in the deeper-faced Short Irons, and that Lag supercedes the overall Clubhead.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:34 AM
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There obviously can be exceptions, but in the sense I know you mean it, the answer is yes.

But more correctly, it is the Sweetspot that lags, not Clubhead as a whole. The Sweetspot can be well up the Clubface, particularly in the deeper-faced Short Irons, and that Lag supercedes the overall Clubhead.

Thanks Yoda and break a leg tomorrow.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:24 AM
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This is what Sasho James MacKenzie says is the purpose of Clubshaft Flex and this is what he claims happens at impact whenever a club is swung.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:27 AM
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This is what Sasho James MacKenzie says is the purpose of Clubshaft Flex and this is what he claims happens at impact whenever a club is swung.


Now you got it, finally, your not that stupid after all.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:28 AM
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Now you got it, finally, your not that stupid after all.
No, but you are.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:31 AM
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Hey OB and Yoda, is this what your club looks like when either of you swing a club, because it isn't what mine looks like.....



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