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Old 11-27-2011, 08:52 AM
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Let me clarify....sweetspot looking at the ball....this drill the club doesn't get too much higher than parallel to the ground.

as far as the right arm goes...depends on the procedure...in swinging the right elbow is going to lead...sweetspot will look at the ball later...hitting the right elbow is punch...simultaneous release type...so sweetspot will not lay on the face of the plane near as long...right forearm will be responsible for pushing/throwing out the sweetspot to the ball...but that doesnt meean the hands get thrown out...it's the clubhead...
Bucket,

Thanks. I'm interested in the swinging as the main pattern.

But you think it's possible to be a switter AND still rely mainly on pa3 as power source? I mean, no pa2 release at all. As a matter of fact, there's effort to inhibit release of pa2 in order to maintain the pa3 angle, which in turn improves accuracy. Pa1 release by p5.5? I think it's not possible to do simultaneously pa3 release via supination and pa1 release. But what do you think? If possible, how?

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Old 11-27-2011, 08:05 PM
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Bucket,

Thanks. I'm interested in the swinging as the main pattern.

But you think it's possible to be a switter AND still rely mainly on pa3 as power source? I mean, no pa2 release at all. As a matter of fact, there's effort to inhibit release of pa2 in order to maintain the pa3 angle, which in turn improves accuracy. Pa1 release by p5.5? I think it's not possible to do simultaneously pa3 release via supination and pa1 release. But what do you think? If possible, how?

Respectfully.
You want to "maintain" the #3 angle INHERENT IN THE PLANE ANGLE YOU SELECT...that's it that's all...the release type...that's freakin' red meat filet mig-nawn of the golfing machine....you can't swing and hit at the same time...Homer was a PURE GENIUS on this....Hitting IS releasing #2 and #3 at the SAME TIME....SIMULTANEOUSLY...therefore the sweetspot does not lay on the plane as long...also HUGE implications on right arm participation....pitch with swinging ...punch with hitting...



You can do that left arm drill thingie with BOTH procedures...you'll note that the left thumb works differently in it's uncocking...with simultaneous...the left thumb uncocks more "out to the plane line earlier"...with swinging you are uncocking karate chop left palm facing the plane longer...



different faces...different procedures...note the elbow positions....the different locations of the right shoulder....fly wheeling vertical-ish right shoulder...vs...launching pad right shoulder higher working out to the plane line more...Homer was a dang genius...right arm participation is totally different.
Accuracy isn't not allowing #2 to go...that's some morad junk...overriding the pulley...dragging the buttcap to the wall...
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:53 PM
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You want to "maintain" the #3 angle INHERENT IN THE PLANE ANGLE YOU SELECT...that's it that's all...the release type...that's freakin' red meat filet mig-nawn of the golfing machine....you can't swing and hit at the same time...Homer was a PURE GENIUS on this....Hitting IS releasing #2 and #3 at the SAME TIME....SIMULTANEOUSLY...therefore the sweetspot does not lay on the plane as long...also HUGE implications on right arm participation....pitch with swinging ...punch with hitting...



You can do that left arm drill thingie with BOTH procedures...you'll note that the left thumb works differently in it's uncocking...with simultaneous...the left thumb uncocks more "out to the plane line earlier"...with swinging you are uncocking karate chop left palm facing the plane longer...



different faces...different procedures...note the elbow positions....the different locations of the right shoulder....fly wheeling vertical-ish right shoulder...vs...launching pad right shoulder higher working out to the plane line more...Homer was a dang genius...right arm participation is totally different.
Accuracy isn't not allowing #2 to go...that's some morad junk...overriding the pulley...dragging the buttcap to the wall...
Hall of Fame post, Bucket. Rendered and illustrated, as usual, in your own inimitable style. I've been around many of the exalted gurus of the game, and nobody gets it more right than you. And, mano-o-mano . . .

You're a hard dog to get off the porch!!

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Hall of Fame post, Bucket. Rendered and illustrated, as usual, in your own inimitable style. I've been around many of the exalted gurus of the game, and nobody gets it more right than you. And, mano-o-mano . . .

You're a hard dog to get off the porch!!

And you're still the faithful Cap'n....but really all you gotta do to get this sorry dawg of the porch is to throw a poke chop biscuit in the yard....bait a trap with the other white meat and you'll catch me ever' time?
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You want to "maintain" the #3 angle INHERENT IN THE PLANE ANGLE YOU SELECT...that's it that's all...the release type...that's freakin' red meat filet mig-nawn of the golfing machine....you can't swing and hit at the same time...Homer was a PURE GENIUS on this....Hitting IS releasing #2 and #3 at the SAME TIME....SIMULTANEOUSLY...therefore the sweetspot does not lay on the plane as long...also HUGE implications on right arm participation....pitch with swinging ...punch with hitting...



You can do that left arm drill thingie with BOTH procedures...you'll note that the left thumb works differently in it's uncocking...with simultaneous...the left thumb uncocks more "out to the plane line earlier"...with swinging you are uncocking karate chop left palm facing the plane longer...



different faces...different procedures...note the elbow positions....the different locations of the right shoulder....fly wheeling vertical-ish right shoulder...vs...launching pad right shoulder higher working out to the plane line more...Homer was a dang genius...right arm participation is totally different.
Accuracy isn't not allowing #2 to go...that's some morad junk...overriding the pulley...dragging the buttcap to the wall...
Bucket,

Thanks on your usual great reply.

Re accuracy by keeping pa2 unreleased, I didn't mean it that way. My INTENTION is to do something with pp1 and keep bent right wrist, but I know that won't happen when the throwout happens because the pa2 will inevitably release. But I'm still doing the pp1/bent right wrist thing (and level left wrist by the way) more to avoid or prevent the pa2 release/velocity to uncock the left wrist greater than it's level state; hence I was able to "maintain" the minimum pa3 angle AFTER pa2 release. And yeah, I have to "pair" this minimum angle post-pa2-release to the plane line. Thanks, excellent. So if I desire the elbow plane, I'll have to adjust the pa3 angle to it, right?

So I guess, it's still swinging, with 4-2-3 as the pattern? With this desired pattern of mine, you think my quest for accuracy first, distance later (when I get stronger) is MISPLACED? You think in this preferred pattern of mine (pa3 angle based), which would you recommend, swinging or hitting? Hitting is tempting me, just because of the distance advantage of right arm thrust. But can it trump out the rotation aspect contributing much to clubhead speed inherent in a swinging pattern?

Re maintaining pa2 unreleased, I agree. But what's your thoughts on having and keeping as large pa3 angle as possible post-release of pa2 in accuracy perspective? Well, distance perspective as well?

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