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Old 11-27-2011, 09:09 AM
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Mr. Yoda,

Re longer release arc or interval of having more pa3 angle, you said it's slower. Why? Because a given effort needs to be distributed on a wider arc, so in effect lessening speed, correct?

How about still relying on pa2, hence allowing a snap release, hence obtaining the desired speed; but you also ADD on the pa3 release with acute pa3 angle even after pa2 has been released? Would this ADDING of pa3 release to the pa2 release detriment the swing such as clubhead speed.

The way I look at it now (I'm still a newbie to TGM), having more pa3 angle doesn't mean you reduce pa2 release (cock to uncock interval). Nobody or nothing can, as a matter of fact. Why? Because a person's cock to uncock interval is determined by his left wrist's physical makeup/anatomy, correct? So, I'm thinking still use pa2, but even upon full release of pa2, there would still be huge pa3 angle remaining by impact.

In short, simultaneous full release of both pa2 and pa3 right after transition, upon reaching early elbow plane. You think this is possible? Any experience hindsight on this?

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Old 11-27-2011, 09:34 AM
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Brianid.....do you have a copy of the golfing machine? If not, you can buy one from the golfing machine website at www.thegolfingmachine.com I suggest you read through and take in the pictures in ch. 6 it is necessary for you to understand all the power accumulators, their functions, sequencing and how they are related to swinging and hitting respectively. There are many more places to read up about acc 3 but I suggest you start at ch. 6. Better yet buy the yellow book and find an authorized instructor in your area. There are no shortcuts only more and more know how. Build a foundation of the sameness first before you worry about the differences. Btw alignment golf > position golf (p4,p7) etc in the golfing machine we refer to the stages of the swing with pre address, impact fix, adjusted address, startup backstroke, top, start down, downstroke, release, impact, follow through, finish

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by whip View Post
Brianid.....do you have a copy of the golfing machine? If not, you can buy one from the golfing machine website at www.thegolfingmachine.com I suggest you read through and take in the pictures in ch. 6 it is necessary for you to understand all the power accumulators, their functions, sequencing and how they are related to swinging and hitting respectively. There are many more places to read up about acc 3 but I suggest you start at ch. 6. Better yet buy the yellow book and find an authorized instructor in your area. There are no shortcuts only more and more know how. Build a foundation of the sameness first before you worry about the differences. Btw alignment golf > position golf (p4,p7) etc in the golfing machine we refer to the stages of the swing with pre address, impact fix, adjusted address, startup backstroke, top, start down, downstroke, release, impact, follow through, finish
Whip,

No, it will take me yeaeaeaears to figure that yellow book out. Reading and posting here is sooooooooo much better...

Is relying on pa3 with maximized pa3 angle (rotational power?) an accepted pattern in tgm? I mean, does tgm teach it for those strong enough to pedal that small gear with longer/wider arc (release/interval arc)? Is it discussed in the book?

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:05 AM
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In short, simultaneous full release of both pa2 and pa3 right after transition, upon reaching early elbow plane. You think this is possible? Any experience hindsight on this?
The Simultaneous Release -- the straightening right elbow driving both the Left Wrist Motion (Uncocking) and Hand Motion (Rolling) -- is a Hitting procedure per 4-D-0 and 7-1. This Hitter's "overlapping" of Power Accumulators #2 and #3 increases Thrust, whereas the Swinger's non-overlapped "sequencing" increases Velocity (6-M-1). The simultaneous application of Power operates as "batteries in parallel" (versus the sequenced "staged rocket launch").

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Old 11-27-2011, 12:05 PM
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The Simultaneous Release -- the straightening right elbow driving both the Left Wrist Motion (Uncocking) and Hand Motion (Rolling) -- is a Hitting procedure per 4-D-0 and 7-1. This Hitter's "overlapping" of Power Accumulators #2 and #3 increases Thrust, whereas the Swinger's non-overlapped "sequencing" increases Velocity (6-M-1). The simultaneous application of Power operates as "batteries in parallel" (versus the sequenced "staged rocket launch").

Mr. Yoda,

Thanks.

So, simultaneous release of pa2 and pa3 is inconsistent in a Swinging pattern? What if I maximize the pa3 angle, won't it be possible? I'm thinking, if I can find a way to do a start down that preserves pa2/lag AND gets the hands/arms into elbow plane immediately/early, all I have to do after start down, during the downstroke, is full release of pa3. I don't even have to think of releasing pa2, although in reality it's being released as well. But what's on my mind is pa3 only. In fact, I even think of keeping the pa2 unreleased, I mean, I try to prevent the left wrist from uncocking with the (1) bent right wrist, (2) focusing on pp1, and (3) keeping a flat and level left wrist during the release process. My reason for this is in order to have as much pa3 angle as possible at impact to maximize accuracy. Is this even possible? I've not perfected this, that's for sure, but I think this leads to better accuracy, and distance if you're strong enough. What do you call this pattern?

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Old 11-27-2011, 12:39 PM
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We pay mechanics to work on our cars because they have the tools space and most importantly the know-how. For those of us that have some tools have a garage and some free time those brave enough to work on their own cars without any or limited mechanical know how go to the auto parts store and obtain a manual for their vehicle, this manual guides the do It yourselfer through basic as well as advanced repair and maintenance. This does not make it easy and you will be stumped here and there but you will have a basis for your questions to ask other friends who maybe know more about cars. Complexity is much more workable than mystery and right now you are off track trying to guess what the yellow book might say when you could obtain one at a small cost
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:00 PM
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We pay mechanics to work on our cars because they have the tools space and most importantly the know-how. For those of us that have some tools have a garage and some free time those brave enough to work on their own cars without any or limited mechanical know how go to the auto parts store and obtain a manual for their vehicle, this manual guides the do It yourselfer through basic as well as advanced repair and maintenance. This does not make it easy and you will be stumped here and there but you will have a basis for your questions to ask other friends who maybe know more about cars. Complexity is much more workable than mystery and right now you are off track trying to guess what the yellow book might say when you could obtain one at a small cost
Whip,

Thanks for the advise. It's well noted.

Any recommendation on the edition? I've read somewhere pa3-based pattern (rotational power) was almost eliminated in the later editions (7th Ed I think)? To make way or focus on pa2-based pattern--velocity power? Is this true?

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:15 PM
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Any recommendation on the edition? I've read somewhere pa3-based pattern (rotational power) was almost eliminated in the later editions (7th Ed I think)? To make way or focus on pa2-based pattern--velocity power? Is this true?

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The first three editions of The Golfing Machine offered "Sample" Stroke Patterns for Golf Strokes from Drive to Putt. The Power Accumulator combinations varied accordingly.

Beginning with the 4th edition, these were eliminated and replaced with the two "Basic" Stroke Patterns (Hitting / 12-1-0 and Swinging / 12-2-0). Homer then advised that these two Basic Patterns be customized by the player as deemed necessary for the Stroke at hand.

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:46 PM
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The first three editions of The Golfing Machine offered "Sample" Stroke Patterns for Golf Strokes from Drive to Putt. The Power Accumulator combinations varied accordingly.

Beginning with the 4th edition, these were eliminated and replaced with the two "Basic" Stroke Patterns (Hitting / 12-1-0 and Swinging / 12-2-0). Homer then advised that these two Basic Patterns be customized by the player as deemed necessary for the Stroke at hand.

Thanks Mr. Yoda.

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Old 11-27-2011, 01:00 PM
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My reason for this is in order to have as much pa3 angle as possible at impact to maximize accuracy. Is this even possible? I've not perfected this, that's for sure, but I think this leads to better accuracy, and distance if you're strong enough. What do you call this pattern?
"X" (1-K).

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