If you drag load and use extencior action, basically all of the swing power will be channeled through left arm.
Towards impact, the left arm will deliver a big portion of centripetal force - and a small portion of something else. The REAL force is what it is, but when you look at it in physics it helps to decompose it into two parts. Centripetal is the first part and it doesn't produce swing speed. It only keeps the club head in orbit. But if you (still) move the shoulder around the spine, you are always pulling towards a spot that stays in front of the swing center. And then you are also producing a second part. That second part is also a LINEAR force component to the pulling. And that component produces swing speed. The key for the swinger's swing production of swing speed is to always pull towards a point that is forward of the swing center. The physics is quite similar for the hitter, except that (s)he pushes towards a spot that is forward of the swing center.
Centrifugal force: Homer defined this as club head inertia, basically and Newton agrees with Homer here. CF produces the throw-out or the release. This release will slow down the hands - perhaps even reverse their motion - unless the golfer resist it. It is this resistance that produces swing speed during the release interval.
Bottom line: If the club head feels really heavy you're producing swing speed. Homer also spoke of the heavy "hit". Which literally means acceleration all the way to impact. The man knew what he was talking about....
just like the release of the #3 accumulator cannot precede the release of #2, and #4 accumulators, your critiques of the golfing machine cannot precede a thorough understanding of it. There is NO SUBSTITUTE for buying The Golfing Machine and reading it, in order to understand it.
Hmmmm....great posts guys...I think I am understanding these better...thanks for the patience and time..
Yeah...my feeling of releasing #3 is I think just to make sure the necessary Hinge Motion of the L wrist happens...I get it now...it is still #4 that pulls everything...
Yeah, it is the Pivot that speeds up the clubhead...the #4...which then uncocks #2...yeah, doesn't have to uncock it intentionally, it just happens Auto, but never Non-Auto...hmmm....
I actually bought the book, haven't read all of it though...just Chapter 10...lol and the introduction part...Hope to have time to look thru it all...
Thanks for the help All...
By the way, not here just to critique at all...just want to learn...but yeah, should read it all first...will try find time...
But All, what is your thoughts about big #3 angle at Address and Impact when L wrist is fully uncocked already? To my mind, it doesn't affect #2 and its release at all. The cock to uncock travel of the L wrist doesn't change, doesn't it? So, Clubhead Speed won't be affected. However, Clubface Control is much easier...you can Horiz Hinge the Face as much as you can and still end up like Angle Hinging it... And I don't have to deal with timing that Snap Release...I can Release the hell out of it as soon as I finish the Start Down and Drag Loading... Thoughts?
Hmmmm....great posts guys...I think I am understanding these better...thanks for the patience and time..
Yeah...my feeling of releasing #3 is I think just to make sure the necessary Hinge Motion of the L wrist happens...I get it now...it is still #4 that pulls everything...
Yeah, it is the Pivot that speeds up the clubhead...the #4...which then uncocks #2...yeah, doesn't have to uncock it intentionally, it just happens Auto, but never Non-Auto...hmmm....
I actually bought the book, haven't read all of it though...just Chapter 10...lol and the introduction part...Hope to have time to look thru it all...
Thanks for the help All...
By the way, not here just to critique at all...just want to learn...but yeah, should read it all first...will try find time...
But All, what is your thoughts about big #3 angle at Address and Impact when L wrist is fully uncocked already? To my mind, it doesn't affect #2 and its release at all. The cock to uncock travel of the L wrist doesn't change, doesn't it? So, Clubhead Speed won't be affected. However, Clubface Control is much easier...you can Horiz Hinge the Face as much as you can and still end up like Angle Hinging it... And I don't have to deal with timing that Snap Release...I can Release the hell out of it as soon as I finish the Start Down and Drag Loading... Thoughts?
Hmmmm....great posts guys...I think I am understanding these better...thanks for the patience and time..
Yeah...my feeling of releasing #3 is I think just to make sure the necessary Hinge Motion of the L wrist happens...I get it now...it is still #4 that pulls everything...
Yeah, it is the Pivot that speeds up the clubhead...the #4...which then uncocks #2...yeah, doesn't have to uncock it intentionally, it just happens Auto, but never Non-Auto...hmmm....
I actually bought the book, haven't read all of it though...just Chapter 10...lol and the introduction part...Hope to have time to look thru it all...
Thanks for the help All...
By the way, not here just to critique at all...just want to learn...but yeah, should read it all first...will try find time...
But All, what is your thoughts about big #3 angle at Address and Impact when L wrist is fully uncocked already? To my mind, it doesn't affect #2 and its release at all. The cock to uncock travel of the L wrist doesn't change, doesn't it? So, Clubhead Speed won't be affected. However, Clubface Control is much easier...you can Horiz Hinge the Face as much as you can and still end up like Angle Hinging it... And I don't have to deal with timing that Snap Release...I can Release the hell out of it as soon as I finish the Start Down and Drag Loading... Thoughts?
B, I started slightly closing my club-face on my drives last week and Hit some weird Angle Hinge draws!
The drives went out like a very satisfying draw which was cool past the trees but a couple of them actually faded at the end of their flight!
I suppose that the Angle Hinge was stronger in my motion than the slightly closed club face. I had a flash of what Bubba Watson must feel like on a daily basis!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Whip, with my artificial hip, 11 hip operations, shorter front leg and non-athletic build, I figured I would zero-out the Pivot so I can walk a little better when I'm done with the round and Hitting has really helped. Last week, I shot an 86 having been on line all day but short by 10 or 15 yards using a stiffer shaft in newer Titleist ZB's, and a 77 two weeks earlier. This weekend I'll add two clubs and Hit and get a senior shaft in the clubs after my round unless I am missing something obvious you'd like to mention.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Whip, with my artificial hip, 11 hip operations, shorter front leg and non-athletic build, I figured I would zero-out the Pivot so I can walk a little better when I'm done with the round and Hitting has really helped. Last week, I shot an 86 having been on line all day but short by 10 or 15 yards using a stiffer shaft in newer Titleist ZB's, and a 77 two weeks earlier. This weekend I'll add two clubs and Hit and get a senior shaft in the clubs after my round unless I am missing something obvious you'd like to mention.
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I would have to see your motion on film to asses what your best options are. Realize though that the hit requires some definite pivoting as well although with a preturned hip it can be easier if you'd like u can pm me a YouTube link of your swing if u have one. You can also equally swing from a preturned hip position and only go to top, and swing quite well perhaps better than your hit procedure at the moment not sure.
CF produces the throw-out or the release. This release will slow down the hands - perhaps even reverse their motion - unless the golfer resist it. It is this resistance that produces swing speed during the release interval.
Nice post Bernt.
My apologies for taking the thread in a different course but you raise a subject of great interest for me.
Re the above : Would I be correct in thinking that to sustain the amount of lag pressure , inertia as sensed in the hands one must sustain the hands rate of acceleration? Or is there more to the story. Mass of club for instance? Anything else?
Can you sustain the amount of lag pressure at the #3 pp after lever extension? All the way to impact? Past impact? Past low point? Doesn't impact itself create a spike in lag pressure as the ball and turf place drag upon the club?
I use lag pressure as a tool but it is fleeting. Its sort of like trying to hold water in your hands . Id like to understand it better. Why it leaks away? When it must leave entirely etc.
Brianid you are correct in your analysis that more #3 accumulator will limit the snap release. U are suggesting to power your golf swing with maximum #3 accumulator. Any player who is gripping the club in the fingers of the left hand and is addressing the ball on the elbow plane is using maximum #3 accumulator anything beyond that and it will be in the form of left wrist cock and the right forearm will not be able to reach the plane.
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