Annikan Skywalker - Downstroke Sequence

[12 piece bucket]

A Hall of Fame post combined with a Hall of Famer ....Bravo...well done and well explained....There is a difference between Turned and Turning....The entire Arm vs. the lower arm....Nice!!!

No . . . YOU'RE the MAN!!!! It's in them purdee pictures of your swing. Pictures worth a thousand words PUDGE.

[annikan skywalker]

Here's proof positive that you can teach TGM without every using it's language...Billy Herring - 14 Years old...12 minute lesson Monday thru Friday before he leaves for school! He's a Champion..He has a Vision...He told Mike Holder of Oklahoma State this summer at the OSU Golf Camp.."Coach I'm comin to OSU"...Coach Holder probably thought "Okay?"...then several days later..this boy was medalist shooting ...I believe a couple under...Guess he can back it up!!!

Billy Herring

[dcg1952]

2nd picture, bottom row, IMPACT-------awesome.

[Yoda]

Billy Herring

And check out Frame #7 (third on bottom row)...

In Zone #1 (Body Control), look at those Feet and their rock solid Balance. Almost as if they were bolted to the floor and yet with sufficient freedom ('between the soles' Loading) to accomodate the Standard Knee Action and its support of the Downstroke Hip and Shoulder Turns. Also note the Centered Head Position making possible a Centered Arc. All this while achieving the Body Power (2-M-4) of the Standard Pivot.

In Zone #2 (Club Control), look at those Arms. Full Extension Down Plane into the Follow-through.

Finally, in Zone #3 (Ball Control), check out Billy's Flat and Vertical Left Wrist and its beautifully executed Horizontal Hinge Action.

There's a little Bobbing (3-F-7-C) going on during the Downstroke as the Head seeks its Impact Fix Location, but nothing that many great players from Nelson to Trevino to Woods couldn't live with.

Bottom line:

It just doesn't get much better than this!

[tongzilla]

If the Hands are a portion of the Lever Assembly and they do not move in a circle as your 'proof positive' demonstrates, haven't you negated 1-L-8 and 1-L-9?

1-L-8. No portion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
1-L-9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.

Originally Posted by tongzilla

The Hands move in a straight line for only a brief period, whilst the Lever Assembly (the whole of Left Arm and Club) moves in a circle around the left shoulder socket. How can the Hands move in a straight line but the Lever Assembly move in a circle simulatenously? The answer is the Axis Tilt during Start Down performed with a Stationary Head and Hip Slide towards your selected Delivery Line. Originally Posted by strav As per 1-L-21, how would you demonstrate your contention geometrically?

1-L-21 is referring to Machine relationships. We humans are not machines and have extra components that make the Golf Stroke more complicated. This is why you cannot demonstrate Axis Tilt or slide Hip Slide on the geometrical figure of 1-L.

[tongzilla]

Billy Herring

Wearing jeans with shirt hanging out?! Sort it out annikan.

[annikan skywalker]

Wearing jeans with shirt hanging out?! Sort it out annikan.

You're right Leo and I agree...but in the US...the shirt hanging out and the jeans are "The School Boy's Uniform" here in the US....How many 14 year olds listen to all of which you have to say?....Someday he'll apprecitae Zanella Slacks and Bobby Jones Silk's!!! But for now..just a country boy!!!

[noproblemos]

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HERE'S A FANTASTIC EXPLANATION BY COLLARDS ON THE INTRACACIES OF HINGE ACTION AND SWIVEL I have this tatoo'd on my forehead.

Thanks a heck of a lot for the explanation! A great read.

I still have a little confusion. I can't understand how this hinge explanation works for any way but one. How would you do a Horizontal Hinge vs Angled Hinge vs Vertical Hinge. I don't yet understand how to change the amounts of "Turn" for Horizontal vs Angled vs Vertical Hinge.

*And I thought I understood Horizontal/Angled/Vertical Hinge action two years ago.

[12 piece bucket]

Thanks a heck of a lot for the explanation! A great read.

I still have a little confusion. I can't understand how this hinge explanation works for any way but one. How would you do a Horizontal Hinge vs Angled Hinge vs Vertical Hinge. I don't yet understand how to change the amounts of "Turn" for Horizontal vs Angled vs Vertical Hinge.

*And I thought I understood Horizontal/Angled/Vertical Hinge action two years ago.

It's what you hold your left wrist perpendicular to. So Horizontal Hinge is on the HORZONTAL PLANE. Like the shooting people with your index finger. Your arm is like a DOOR swinging on its hinge. It moves on a horizontal plane right?BUT to get from the HORIZONTAL PLANE to the "golf plane" which is the Inclined Plane (like a roof) you gotta drop your arm down on it. Hence Dual Horizontal Hinging Hinge #1 is the like the door's hinge, but to get to the Inclined Plane you need a second hinge to drop it down from your shoulder socket. Make sense?

Now Verticle Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICAL PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly. But you need a second hinge to get you on the inclined plane . . . so Dual Vertical Hinging. Cool?

Now for Angled Hinging you don't need no 2nd hinge because you are already on the Inclined Plane. Therefore your wrist just remains verticle to the Inclined Plane (roof).

That's the conceptual stuff but you can control your Hinge Action by FEEL and by how the Clubhead points:

FEEL
7-10 HINGE ACTION . . . Beside the coverage in 2-D, 2-G and 10-10, “Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll

VISUALLY
Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky. And always with a Flat Left Wrist vertical to its associated Basic Plane. “Over Roll” or “Under Roll” of the Left Wrist – NOT VERTICAL – puts the Swingle out of line with the Handle (Sketch 2-K) as much as does any other form of Clubhead Throwaway. Practice these alignments until you have the same Rhythm hitting the Ball as with your Practice Swing. Their difference is always Rhythm.

The KEY to this Rhythm is the #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-0). As part of the above drill, hold the 45 degree Arm position while rotating the Hands and the #3 Accumulator through the three Hinging positions, over and over until you see that each position changes the LOCATION of the Clubhead. The Point to note here is that with each Hinge Action the #3 Accumulator has a different “In Line” motion – Dual Horizontal Hinging having the longest travel and Dual Vertical the shortest. This agrees with the “Roll Characteristics” discussed in 7-10 and must be so executed to produce proper Rhythm.

Word?

[noproblemos]

Almost Word.
At the moment I'm trying to imagine how a horizontal hinge that is dropped down (Dual Horizontal Hinge) is different from an Angle Hinge.

It's what you hold your left wrist perpendicular to. So Horizontal Hinge is on the HORZONTAL PLANE. Like the shooting people with your index finger. Your arm is like a DOOR swinging on its hinge. It moves on a horizontal plane right?BUT to get from the HORIZONTAL PLANE to the "golf plane" which is the Inclined Plane (like a roof) you gotta drop your arm down on it. Hence Dual Horizontal Hinging Hinge #1 is the like the door's hinge, but to get to the Inclined Plane you need a second hinge to drop it down from your shoulder socket. Make sense?

Now Verticle Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICLE PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly. But you need a second hinge to get you on the inclined plane . . . so Dual Verticle Hinging. Cool?

Now for Angled Hinging you don't need no 2nd hinge because you are already on the Inclined Plane. Therefore your wrist just remains verticle to the Inclined Plane (roof).

That's the conceptual stuff but you can control your Hinge Action by FEEL and by how the Clubhead points:

FEEL
7-10 HINGE ACTION . . . Beside the coverage in 2-D, 2-G and 10-10, “Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll

VISUALLY
Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky. And always with a Flat Left Wrist vertical to its associated Basic Plane. “Over Roll” or “Under Roll” of the Left Wrist – NOT VERTICAL – puts the Swingle out of line with the Handle (Sketch 2-K) as much as does any other form of Clubhead Throwaway. Practice these alignments until you have the same Rhythm hitting the Ball as with your Practice Swing. Their difference is always Rhythm.

The KEY to this Rhythm is the #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-0). As part of the above drill, hold the 45 degree Arm position while rotating the Hands and the #3 Accumulator through the three Hinging positions, over and over until you see that each position changes the LOCATION of the Clubhead. The Point to note here is that with each Hinge Action the #3 Accumulator has a different “In Line” motion – Dual Horizontal Hinging having the longest travel and Dual Vertical the shortest. This agrees with the “Roll Characteristics” discussed in 7-10 and must be so executed to produce proper Rhythm.

Word?