Annikan Skywalker - Downstroke Sequence
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03-24-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
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Almost Word.
At the moment I'm trying to imagine how a horizontal hinge that is dropped down (Dual Horizontal Hinge) is different from an Angle Hinge.
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1. Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees.
a. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line.
b. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line.
c. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky.
With open hand hold your hand VERTICAL (at 90 degrees to) the Inclined Plane with your left arm at follow-thru position. It is still "cutting through the Plane right?
Now raise your open palm up infront of where it would be at follow-thru with the hand Vertical to the ground. Now drop it down to where your arm would be at follow-thru on the inclined plane. It is MORE ROLLED no?
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03-24-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
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1-L-21 is referring to Machine relationships. We humans are not machines and have extra components that make the Golf Stroke more complicated. This is why you cannot demonstrate Axis Tilt or slide Hip Slide on the geometrical figure of 1-L.
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Thanks Tongzilla. I think it was my interpretation of 1-L that has led me astray.
1-L THE MACHINE CONCEPT It is soon apparent that the body can duplicate a machine. Grasp the parallel and escape limiting old concepts.
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03-24-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
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Edz said: [She]... a bit early on the finish swivel perhaps, or an aiming point that is slightly farther back than it should be. These are very minor in her case.
I have a question about this “Hinging” and/or “finish swivel”:
First I assume:
1. These are both pics of the “follow through” position where both arms are straight.
2. Since you’re probably “Swinging” then you’re intending to use Horizontal Hinging.
OK, here's where I'm confused...
Edz has said that she seems to be “a bit early on the finish swivel.” But isn’t hers the way you are supposed to look, at the "both arms straight position", if you are using Horizontal Hinging? How can you [Annikan] be using Horizontal Hinging if your hands look like yours at followthrough. Wouldn’t that be more like Angled Hinging?
Isn't Horizontal Hinging a "full roll" through impact? her's looks like a full roll. Has she gone rolled too far too early?
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The key difference, and the 'root' of the issue is her grip.
Note how well David has maintained his right wrist bend in the comparison above, vs. the flat right wrist position of Melanie.
Melanie's right hand grip is too much in her fingers, rather than being at the 'root', or base, of the fingers/palm. This forces her to take a stronger left hand grip in order to 'balance' the tendency of a right hand fingers grip to open the clubface, and doesn't allow her to keep her right hand wedge until follow through.
Both David's grip and Billy Herring's grip are far better, as you can clearly see in the impact and follow through positions in their sequences.
This is an area where TGM and 'traditional' teaching are rather different, and it is a VERY important difference.
Your pattern always comes back to your grip. I can certainly relate, as I had for many years used a right hand grip that was too far in the fingers - which just destroys the right forearm wedge.
Hitting chip shots right hand only can show you the proper location, at the 'root' of the fingers.
Heck of a motion from Billy Herring David! 
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03-24-2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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oh to be a young kid with a great coach. good luck to the young grasshopper, from just another coulda-been-champion 
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03-24-2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Now Vertical Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICAL PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly.
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"Like you were trying to fly."
How many times will I say those words over the next ten years?
Thanks, Colonel!
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03-24-2006, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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"Like you were trying to fly."
How many times will I say those words over the next ten years?
Thanks, Colonel!
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You like? I prefer the yardbird image. Like Rocky chasin' that chicken around a vacant lot. People north of the Mason Dixon don't know nothin' 'bout no yardbird. Chickens are for chasin', fryin', bbq'n, and chok. . . (ah hewm!!!).
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03-25-2006, 03:23 AM
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Thanks again 12Piece
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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1. Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees.
a. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line.
b. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line.
c. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky.
With open hand hold your hand VERTICAL (at 90 degrees to) the Inclined Plane with your left arm at follow-thru position. It is still "cutting through the Plane right?
Now raise your open palm up infront of where it would be at follow-thru with the hand Vertical to the ground. Now drop it down to where your arm would be at follow-thru on the inclined plane. It is MORE ROLLED no?
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03-25-2006, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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The key difference, and the 'root' of the issue is her grip.
Note how well David has maintained his right wrist bend in the comparison above, vs. the flat right wrist position of Melanie.
Melanie's right hand grip is too much in her fingers, rather than being at the 'root', or base, of the fingers/palm. This forces her to take a stronger left hand grip in order to 'balance' the tendency of a right hand fingers grip to open the clubface, and doesn't allow her to keep her right hand wedge until follow through.
Both David's grip and Billy Herring's grip are far better, as you can clearly see in the impact and follow through positions in their sequences.
This is an area where TGM and 'traditional' teaching are rather different, and it is a VERY important difference.
Your pattern always comes back to your grip. I can certainly relate, as I had for many years used a right hand grip that was too far in the fingers - which just destroys the right forearm wedge.
Hitting chip shots right hand only can show you the proper location, at the 'root' of the fingers.
Heck of a motion from Billy Herring David!
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Helluva post EdZ...thanks for the insight!!!
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03-25-2006, 05:23 PM
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Down Target View Available?
David,
Is Bill's Down Target View available?
Would you have time to post it?
Thanks,
Mike O.
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03-25-2006, 06:50 PM
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I'll try to capture some next lesson!!! Our building is so short that we have to film down the line fro outside the building to inside and this messes up the lighting during some portions of the day...
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