Rotation

[metallion]

In a recent post I said I focused on rotating, only to eventually realize I do not really know what to rotate. The more I think of it I realize have too little of a clue.

One of my main thoughts to fight throwaway is to rotate enough through impact to get my hands to Impacts Hands Location. I have felt that the source for this rotation is blasting the left arm off the chest which will indirectly get my hands to impact hands location.

Or should I rather focus on the idea to rotate the right shoulder down plane to get my hands there. The more I think of that idea, the better it sounds. Maybe that's what I am actually doing... I.e. rotating the right shoulder enough down plane to be able to "reach" Impact Hands Location while maintaining a bent right wrist.

Or is it that the heaviest possible left arm chest blast-off (generation of centrifugal force) will be generated by a deliberate down-plane rotation of the right shoulder.

Or is it that hips, feet and knees are the source for triggering the rotation which is then materialized by the PP4 blast-off AND the right shoulder rotation down plane.

Or....

I feel my thoughts on this are a bit too vague and maybe someone can point out how rotation gets in the mix. References to the book would be great.

Or:

What would "lack of rotation" mean to a Swinger - in TGM terms - if anything.

[12 piece bucket]

Great question! I too have struggled with this. When I think "rotation" "spin the fly-wheel," my body moves too much.

Look forward to good answers on this one.

[metallion]

Just struck me that:

Rotation

can create:

Angular Motion

Should I go to 2-H? .... 2-K?

[metallion]

Finally some time with the book available.

2-K Generation of Angular Motion

Angular motion (i.e. what the clubhead is describing) is the result of at least two divergent forces. Such as,

A. Centripetal Force (the Lever Assemblies 6-A) diverting Linear Force (Right Arm Trust 6-B-1) into a rotating motion (Hitting 10-19-A).

Or:

B. Turning its axis (the Body 2-M-4) to spin a flywheel - the Lever Assemblies (Swinging 10-19-C).

Still exploring.

[metallion]

Tentative conclusion (Swinging) - based on 2-K and 2-M-4 in more or less pure English:

Rotation is what the (turning) body performs in order to accelerate and blast the essentially straight left arm into orbit and toward impact.

Good enough?

No.

Since the right arm is part of the power package (Lever Assembly) the right shoulder (2-H) has the responsibility to:
- line up the power package correctly by titing the axis around which the body rotates
and
- defining the degree of right elbow bend at impact and may thus influence the impact alignment of the clubface.

So ROTATION means:
- Rotating the body for centrifugal force.
- Rotating the right shoulder down on plane for alignments

Good enough?

[jim_0068]

Brian Manzella quote:

"lift, drop, and rotate."

Basically allow your arms to "drop" from the end of your swing and then "spin" as hard as you want (as he'd say you're "catching" the drop)

The hard part is allowing centrifugal force to do everything for you and not fight it, the easy part is just rotating

[bts]

I rotate my shoulders (through pivot action w/ stationary head) while letting my arms rotate (turn or roll).

[6bmike]

The thought of the shoulders rotating is dangerous. (OTT) The shoulders (the right shoulder) should travel on the incline plane and the thought should be to move the arms and hands down, drop or vertical.
As the right shoulder travels down the incline plane and since the incline plane has an horizontal and a vertical axis, the left shoulder rotates on the horizontal axis of the incline plane.
This fulfills the horizontal relocation of the swing center but to just rotate them horizontally with a stationary right shoulder is no good at all.
The arms and hands need to down vertical not out horizontally. It is a blend of two axis, the horizontal pivot of the lower body and the vertical however the incline of the arms. I think Manzella’s idea nails it. And highlights the importance of Hula Hula 7-14/7-15.

Bts, the rotation of the arms, the turn and roll you mention, is rhythm and not part of either the horizontal or vertical movement of the pivot and arms.

[bts]

Thanks for the "heads up".

It seems that the "lag" (or the "secret") not only synchronizes "my stuff", but also puts them "on-plane".

[6bmike]

Thanks for the "heads up".

It seems that the "lag" (or the "secret") not only synchronizes "my stuff", but also puts them "on-plane".

Rhythm as was the answer to Lynn’s last poll and it is hard to believe that it isn’t an Imperative. Without it, the rhythm of acc2 and 3 and the whole left arm and left flat wrist, the left flying wedge assembly, well, you ain’t got didley. That rotation, a rotation on an incline plane to the base line is key.

Essential, yes.

Imperative- I’m thinking YES- for sure.