I Had an Amazing Practice today!!!! But I still have a quesetion.

[ndwolfe81]

Today on the range was the best practice I believe that I have ever had. I start with about 30 mins of basic and aquired motion, then I went into 8iron 6iron 2iron and driver, around 300 balls total. The sound and flight were so amazing. But I still have a question.

I was monitoring my right shoulder and how it loaded my PP#4. Then alittle later I was monitoring the place that my left shoulder was positioning its self as I came into impact. It felt like it was moving up and back some, and it felt like my right shoulder moving properly was causing this.

Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this feeling, or if this is dicussed somewhere in the greatest book ever?

[jim_0068]

To get people to move their right shoulder downplane correctly one of the greatest sayings ever is to get your LEFT SHOULDER "up and back."

Because if you can do that, the right shoulder will go down and out.

[ndwolfe81]

It also felt like it was just in the perfect spot for everything to happen. Hinge action, uncocking left wrist, rolling. etc. Just amazing.

[Burner]

[quote=6bmike]

It felt like it was moving up and back some, and it felt like my right shoulder moving properly was causing this.
/QUOTE]

Correct. Homer said that the left shoulder only re-acts to what the right is doing.

And it is better to let it just react than to use it as a trigger for right shoulder motion - a sure fire roundhousing recipe if ever there was one.

[Yoda]

Today on the range was the best practice I believe that I have ever had. I start with about 30 mins of basic and aquired motion, then I went into 8iron 6iron 2iron and driver, around 300 balls total. The sound and flight were so amazing. But I still have a question.

I was monitoring my right shoulder and how it loaded my PP#4. Then a little later I was monitoring the place that my left shoulder was positioning its self as I came into impact. It felt like it was moving up and back some, and it felt like my right shoulder moving properly was causing this.

Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this feeling, or if this is dicussed somewhere in the greatest book ever?

Per 7-8 and 2-J-1, the Left Shoulder moves into its Impact Fix Location -- higher than at Adjusted Address -- as the Right Shoulder drives Down Plane (2-H, 7-13 and Photo 10-13-D-#3) via the Hip Turn and Axis Tilt (7-14).

It's a good thing.

[Yoda]

It also felt like it was just in the perfect spot for everything to happen. Hinge action, uncocking left wrist, rolling. etc. Just amazing.

That's the feeling, Nathan.

When the Right Shoulder, Right Forearm, and #3 Pressure Point drive the Lever Assemblies (Left Arm and Club) toward the Plane Line (1-L-#10), all at right angles to the Clubshaft/Sweetspot (1-L-#11), there are no conflicting alignments. Then, the Downstroke becomes one cohesive Motion from the Top to the Finish with everything 'all lined up.'

As Homer Kelley said of that serendipitous moment...

"Where did all the noise go?"

[Yoda]

To get people to move their right shoulder downplane correctly one of the greatest sayings ever is to get your LEFT SHOULDER "up and back."

Because if you can do that, the right shoulder will go down and out.

I agree that, in practice and drill, players should be aware of the return of the Left Shoulder to its Impact Fix Location. But...

Do you drive the Left Arm (and Club) by pulling the Left Shoulder back to its Fix Location?

Or do you drive it by thrusting the Right Shoulder -- against the Left Arm and its #4 Pressure Point -- toward the Ball?

In my forty years of golf, I have never heard or read of a great Champion describing the Left Shoulder as his Driving Force into Impact.

Right Knee.

Yes.

Right Hip.

Yes.

Left Hip.

Yes.

Right Shoulder.

Yes.

Right Arm.

Yes.

Right Hand.

Yes.

But never...

Left Shoulder.

The Secret of Golf -- Clubhead Lag (6-C-2-0/A) -- is all about 'Dragging the Wet Mop' -- unrelenting, inert Clubhead Lag Pressure -- through Impact.

And despite the fact that the 'Wet Mop' -- the Left Arm, Club and its Dead Weight Inertia -- hangs off the Left Shoulder, you don't Drag it 'back-handed' with your Left Shoulder and Arm. Instead, the uncoiling Left Side is led by Hip Action (7-15) that "throws" the Right Shoulder Down Plane. This welds the Left Arm against the side of the chest -- the #4 Pressure Point -- and Delivers the Assembled and Loaded Power Package into Release.

Swingers use Centrifugal Force Body Power -- rotational Momentum Transfer -- to sustain this Clubhead Drive through Impact. Hitters use Right Triceps Muscle Power.

[ndwolfe81]

I agree that, in practice and drill, players should be aware of the return of the Left Shoulder to its Impact Fix Location. But...

Do you drive the Left Arm (and Club) by pulling the Left Shoulder back to its Fix Location?

Or do you drive it by thrusting the Right Shoulder -- against the Left Arm and its #4 Pressure Point -- toward the Ball?

In my forty years of golf, I have never heard or read of a great Champion discussing the Left Shoulder as his Driving Force into Impact.

Right Knee.

Yes.

Right Hip.

Yes.

Left Hip.

Yes.

Right Shoulder.

Yes.

Right Arm.

Yes.

Right Hand.

Yes.

But never...

Left Shoulder.

The Secret of Golf -- Clubhead Lag (6-C-2-0/A) -- is all about 'Dragging the Wet Mop' -- unrelenting, inert Clubhead Lag Pressure -- through Impact.

And despite the fact that the 'Wet Mop' -- the Left Arm, Club and its Dead Weight Inertia -- hangs off the Left Shoulder, you don't Drag it 'back-handed' with your Left Shoulder and Arm. Instead, the uncoiling Left Side is led by Hip Action (7-15) that "throws" the Right Shoulder Down Plane. This welds the Left Arm against the side of the chest -- the #4 Pressure Point -- and Delivers the Assembled and Loaded Power Package into Release.

Swingers use Centrifugal Force Body Power -- rotational Momentum Transfer -- to sustain this Clubhead Drive through Impact. Hitters use Right Triceps Muscle Power.

Yoda I do agree with you. It was like my left shoulder just kept getting put into the perfect spot, but my right shoulder was causing it. For some reason I was just picking up on the feeling, of where my left shoulder was going to.

After studying TGM more and more, I have changed my setup, my tripod is finally centered, no more tilted head. I also now setup at a true impact fix and then move into the adjusted address position with centered tripod bent left and flat right. I think switching to this has allowed me to get a feel for impact more and my alignments are much better now.

My biggest misunderstanding is plane now. I really don't know what to look for in a video, I filmed today, and on my backswing about waist high the club was under the shaft plane (slighty) that scares me. I guess I need more right forearm pick up and less flanning.

But the one that really is getting me is the sweet spot plane, I saw where hunter put up the swinging stick man and I tried to draw those lines on the computer today. My sweet spot didn't stay on that line on the way down (It was under it) but at impact I was money babe, nice small draw.

I will be calling in the next month or so to come see you again, and we will get squared away.

[Yoda]

I will be calling in the next month or so to come see you again, and we will get squared away.

Great, Nathan.

See you then!

[birdie_man]

I like using "left shoulder up and back" but left hip I think can be a good key too.