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Mind over Muscle – The Mental Approach
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11-19-2006, 10:55 PM
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Much Ado about Nothing?
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Originally Posted by bts
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It's actually "Sustain the resistance ("lag") encountered during shoulder rotation".
That's pretty much right!! Imperatives and essentials are the "effect" "caused" by "sustain the lag through shoulder rotation".
One last shot: you do the "cause" and the "effect" shows.
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Wow what a BOLD STATEMENT...I guess most of us on the forum have been wasting our time going through " much ado about nothing".
But wait a sec...per 5-0
" The alternative to Hand Controlled Pivot is, of course, Pivot Controlled Hands, per 10-24-F. That does not alter the Basic Geometry or Physics requirements, but assigns to Physics precedence over Geometry - Force dictating alignments. Which obviously reduces precision; but,also Clubhead Throwaway. The information for such procedure is all included herein - merely Monitor the Pivot instead of the Hands.
That is, primarily, the use of The Shoulder Turn Takeaway instead of Right Forearm Takeaway. But that procedure is so inferior that detailed consideration does not appear warranted except in a transitional undertaking.
However, if the Clubhead is Monitored directly instead of through the Hands, it is, as always, a chronic disaster. If the Hands are Monitored, Pivot Controlled Hands vanish."
What is your reply to this...getting interesting. 
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11-20-2006, 04:20 PM
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"much ado about nothing"
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Originally Posted by comdpa
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Wow what a BOLD STATEMENT...I guess most of us on the forum have been wasting our time going through "much ado about nothing".
But wait a sec...per 5-0
"The alternative to Hand Controlled Pivot is, of course, Pivot Controlled Hands, per 10-24-F. That does not alter the Basic Geometry or Physics requirements, but assigns to Physics precedence over Geometry - Force dictating alignments. Which obviously reduces precision; but,also Clubhead Throwaway. The information for such procedure is all included herein - merely Monitor the Pivot instead of the Hands.
That is, primarily, the use of The Shoulder Turn Takeaway instead of Right Forearm Takeaway. But that procedure is so inferior that detailed consideration does not appear warranted except in a transitional undertaking.
However, if the Clubhead is Monitored directly instead of through the Hands, it is, as always, a chronic disaster. If the Hands are Monitored, Pivot Controlled Hands vanish."
What is your reply to this...getting interesting.
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I have not much more to say on this, except that the "lag" is supposed to be sustained through all the body parts, especially the hands to which the club is connected, despite of being powered by shoulder rotation, and, indeed, it will be realized someday (hope not too far in the future) that "most of us on the forum have been wasting our time going through " much ado about nothing"".
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the " LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain ( Yang/陽) the lag ( Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" ( 陰陽合一).
The " LAW" creates the " effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the " cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
" Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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11-21-2006, 12:14 AM
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Elaborate and Justify
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Originally Posted by bts
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I have not much more to say on this, except that the "lag" is supposed to be sustained through all the body parts, especially the hands to which the club is connected, despite of being powered by shoulder rotation, and, indeed, it will be realized someday (hope not too far in the future) that "most of us on the forum have been wasting our time going through "much ado about nothing"".
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bts,
You may not have " much more" to say, but for what you have said, I would expect you to at least have a working knowledge.
Can you elaborate on your 'thesis' and justify what you have put forth?
I am sure all the forum members here and those who have put in so much time (read: years) studying the book will appreciate your efforts.
I pity those who have put in so much time learning and understanding the laws of physics and geometry as regards the golf swing - including myself.
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11-21-2006, 10:47 AM
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Good or bad you play the game, the sun arises the next day.
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Originally Posted by comdpa
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bts,
You may not have "much more" to say, but for what you have said, I would expect you to at least have a working knowledge.
Can you elaborate on your 'thesis' and justify what you have put forth?
I am sure all the forum members here and those who have put in so much time (read: years) studying the book will appreciate your efforts.
I pity those who have put in so much time learning and understanding the laws of physics and geometry as regards the golf swing - including myself.
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Me, too.
I have said it all (in my posts), repeatly, before. It's up to you to listen or not.
Good or bad you play the game, the sun arises the next day.
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Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go!
Yani Tseng Did It Again!
YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the " LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain ( Yang/陽) the lag ( Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" ( 陰陽合一).
The " LAW" creates the " effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the " cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
" Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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11-21-2006, 11:34 AM
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Explain, not Describe
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Originally Posted by bts
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Me, too.
I have said it all (in my posts), repeatly, before. It's up to you to listen or not.
Good or bad you play the game, the sun arises the next day.
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No, you have merely DESCRIBED.
I asked you for an explanation and an elaboration but you shirk my request with a " I have said it all".
What is it that you have said aside from " Shoulder Rotation"?
You say " Shoulder Rotation" - I ask for a justification -you say " It's up to you to listen or not."
The issue at hand is not that I am not listening, it is that you are merely parroting and are not really sure of what you are saying...thus the avoidance of my questions and the lack of elucidation. 
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