Posterchild for Hitters - Stuart Appleby

[Thom]

Another indication of Appleby's hitting, are his waggles.
He'll bend and straighten his right elbow = driving the shaft.

Bommelum - didn't anyone notice

[tongzilla]

Ok Philly,

We can infer that it's more likely to be Hitting than Swinging, given the limited information we have.

I think that's a fair statement, no?

[annikan skywalker]

Philly..I know we're friends...You're entitled to your opinion...

[MBCpro]

Hey folks,

Stewie can give us clues, but only he really knows whether he is hitting or swinging. But isn't this fun and educational?
I believe Mr Kelley once stated he didn't like looking at swings because they all looked different, he was speaking about Nicklaus at the time and saw a swing and Mr. Kelley said he didn't think that was Jack's normal swing. We have no idea what any player is attempting do on the majority of the swings and pictures we see.

But as I said above it is great for educational purposes for the forum to discuss and debate all these great components and to hear everyone's educated opinions.

Keep up the great work!

Todd

[YodasLuke]

Hey folks,

Stewie can give us clues, but only he really knows whether he is hitting or swinging. But isn't this fun and educational?
I believe Mr Kelley once stated he didn't like looking at swings because they all looked different, he was speaking about Nicklaus at the time and saw a swing and Mr. Kelley said he didn't think that was Jack's normal swing. We have no idea what any player is attempting do on the majority of the swings and pictures we see.

But as I said above it is great for educational purposes for the forum to discuss and debate all these great components and to hear everyone's educated opinions.

Keep up the great work!

Todd

I think it's an amazing thing to have such a place where these types of conversations are possible. The Apple is obviously an amazing specimen for all of us to dissect. And, I think he has an immense amount of components that we'd all like to emulate. We can all agree that he's got something right.

[YodasLuke]

Another indication of Appleby's hitting, is his waggles.
He'll bend and straighten his right elbow = driving the shaft.

That's a TGM waggle if I've ever seen one. He's got the flying wedges as good as anyone.

[EC]

Annikan...

No disrespect, you'r my boy. But in all seriousness - if you, or anyone - can tell hitting via a posed shot at the end of the sequence, well.......

I dont agree.

Look back at your Elkington photo's....at the end - via vertical hinging - his face is WIDE open. So...

EC,
For those that don't know - EC is one of my mentors. One, among two, who took my under his wing. And, in my opinion, is a knowledgable and brilliant as anyone....especially when it comes too TGM. As a devil's advocate, I am compelled to give my take....


Not relevant.


Not relevant.

Swingers can do the same - see Tiger hitting a flop with vertical hinging.

Hmmm.....do we know the original lie? Situation?


I, and you, can get in the same position swinging, no????
Gentlemen,
I must disagree. I posted an entire motion - after what, 6 or 7 pages of reading that Appleby was a 'textbook' hitter. And here - I must disagree. I do not, and would not advocate, surmising that a player is a hitter or swinger based upon one photo.

Thats my stance and I am sticking by it. I realize I am the only one to stand up on this - and thats ok.....

Could I prove it in a court of law? No.

Thank God this isnt a court of law and its TGM.

-Patrick

Patrick,

S. Alito would have trouble supporting my argument, but I must confess that my conclusion came in the form of "connecting the dots", if you will. My computer looks at the situation at hand and spits out the best pattern with the most likely highest % of success based on having seen and performed this shot many, many times. Additionally, I have followed S.A. around Augusta's hilly terrain on more than one occassion, and I can tell you that his predominate pattern is hitting, whether he knows it or not. The components do not lie.

EC

[phillygolf]

Ok Philly,

We can infer that it's more likely to be Hitting than Swinging, given the limited information we have.

I think that's a fair statement, no?

Yes Sir...my only point (playing Devil's Advocate) is...perhaps, at times, he may be swinging.

Philly..I know we're friends...You're entitled to your opinion...

And my opinion....like others....is like.....

Patrick,

S. Alito would have trouble supporting my argument, but I must confess that my conclusion came in the form of "connecting the dots", if you will. My computer looks at the situation at hand and spits out the best pattern with the most likely highest % of success based on having seen and performed this shot many, many times. Additionally, I have followed S.A. around Augusta's hilly terrain on more than one occassion, and I can tell you that his predominate pattern is hitting, whether he knows it or not. The components do not lie.

EC

EC,
I believe you mean J. (as in Judge) Alito. And I understand your point - and do not oppose it.


Gentlemen - please do not let my opposition stop this thread - there is much to be learned and gained from it.

As previously stated by one with much more intellegence than me: "It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it." -Joubert

[EC]

PC,

Samuel Alito...da judge.

EC

[Trig]

Take a look at some of the vid's of Yoda swinging vs. hiting. It's really hard to tell the difference UNLESS you know what to look for.

The only difference I see in Yoda's video's is when he's swinging his clubhead lags a bit during the startup. Other than that, I have a hard time telling the difference in his motion.