Ted Fort 10-5-E, 2-J-3 Visual Equivalents

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Old 07-20-2006, 10:34 PM
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Ted Fort 10-5-E, 2-J-3 Visual Equivalents
Saw it for my own eyes very good....different until you stand on the closed plane line and the Angle of Approach Procedure...Teddy Ballgame showed me the visual equivalents with two hoops on top of each other..the hitter sees a steeper than normal circle and in relation to his eyes it is a circle that appears to be a straight line out to right field.... if you stood on the 10-5-A plane line you'd say the swing was inside then steep...but standing on the 10-5-E Plane Line..it looks on plane to right field...really cool
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Saw it for my own eyes very good....different until you stand on the closed plane line and the Angle of Approach Procedure...Teddy Ballgame showed me the visual equivalents with two hoops on top of each other..the hitter sees a steeper than normal circle and in relation to his eyes it is a circle that appears to be a straight line out to right field.... if you stood on the 10-5-A plane line you'd say the swing was inside then steep...but standing on the 10-5-E Plane Line..it looks on plane to right field...really cool
Covering the 10-5-E makes the geometry look a little crazy when viewing it from a "normal" (10-5-A) camera position, doesn't it? If the plane line rotates, so must the camera angle. As seldom as Hitting has been taught in the past, I would wager that even less often has the camera angle been changed.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
Covering the 10-5-E makes the geometry look a little crazy when viewing it from a "normal" (10-5-A) camera position, doesn't it? If the plane line rotates, so must the camera angle. As seldom as Hitting has been taught in the past, I would wager that even less often has the camera angle been changed.

Indeed - perspective matters so much!

Certainly many fail to 'see' the equivalents for the simple reason that they don't shift their perspective, which is always looking 'down' on the tilted plane's surface.

Love the visual of the hoops Ted - outstanding way to look at it Sure to be a 'hit'!
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Ted or David,

It would be a great learning experience for us if you can post some photos of this.

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I did not have down the line only face on caddie view......Teddy? you got some lookin down the 10-5-E?
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I did not have down the line only face on caddie view......Teddy? you got some lookin down the 10-5-E?
If I have a chance in between lessons tomorrow, I'll see if I can get it done. I'll do my best to make time. It creates a really different look, once you move the camera.

I had dinner with a couple of TGM'ers and we were talking about camera angles. One of the teachers said that he sent three pictures of him swinging to a group of well respected teachers on "the list". He asked each of them to critique them. One was laid off, one was on plane, and one was across the line. So each of the teachers went into full descriptions of the swings that they didn't like.

The pictures were all taken at the same time, same swing, with three different cameras, from three different angles, using a 10-5-A plane.

Camera too far to the right = club across the line
Camera on plane = club on plane
Camera too far to the left = club laid off

A point on which he failed to elaborate was the use of 10-5-E.

Camera too far to the right = club WAY across the line
Camera on plane = club across the line
Camera too far to the left = club on plane

The story has been submitted to a major magazine, and has not been run, as of last month.
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