The spine could be parallel to the yellow line. The yellow line is nearly parallel to the upper red line anyway, and these lines are not meant to be exact representations of body anatomy, but merely illustrative of the reverse-K end-backswing position.
Jeff.
Maybe . . . it looks like that the upper spine has moved somewhat LEFT of its original position much like the post that you put up with the right butt cheek moving BEHIND the player??? Hogan has not created a lot of proverbial "pie."
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
See 7-12 . . . I think that should clear up any interpretation issues. The title of the section is Swing Center TRIPOD. The head does't move, but what is UNDERNEATH it may. And in 1-L #1 it says STATIONARY Post (player's head). The post is IMAGINARY . . . It ain't the spine. It is a line drawn up between the feets and up through the mellon. Also see Axis Tilt in the Glossary . . .
Mechanical - To change directions, the helicopter pilot alters the plane of the rotating blades by tilting their axis in the new direction.
Well put!!!
Golf - To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips.
It all depends on your focus of the "staionary center". I think you can have a stationary head and that becomes a "head centered" pivot .... Colin Montgomery comes to mind. But if the head is to stay centered and I agree with Mr. Blake "set it there and keep it there", the multiple centers and hip shift "tilts" the axis to allow for this (in a dynamic motion).
Flexibility and conditioning and "too flat" of a shoulder turn have adverse effects on keeping this head centered IMO.
See 7-12 . . . I think that should clear up any interpretation issues. The title of the section is Swing Center TRIPOD. The head does't move, but what is UNDERNEATH it may. And in 1-L #1 it says STATIONARY Post (player's head). The post is IMAGINARY . . . It ain't the spine. It is a line drawn up between the feets and up through the mellon.
The term Swing Center Tripod is found only in the title of 7-12 (the Pivot Component) of the 7th edition. Unfortunately, there is no expanation or reference to this important concept in 7-12. Thus, there is an unfortunate 'disconnect' here, in that the explanation of the SCT can be found only in 2-H (also only in the 7th edition):
The important thing is that the true Swing Center for ALL COMPONENTS is around a Hinge Pin with one end at the top of the Stationary Head and the other in the ground, precisely between the Feet, with no regard for Body Location or Position at any time.
The term Swing Center Tripod is found only in the title of 7-12 (the Pivot Component) of the 7th edition. Unfortunately, there is no expanation or reference to this important concept in 7-12. Thus, there is an unfortunate 'disconnect' here, in that the explanation of the SCT can be found only in 2-H (also only in the 7th edition):
The important thing is that the true Swing Center for ALL COMPONENTS is around a Hinge Pin with one end at the top of the Stationary Head and the other in the ground, precisely between the Feet, with no regard for Body Location or Position at any time.
Would this hingepin not be bottomed out at or near low point rather than 'precisely between the feet'?
I have always viewed this swing center being slightly left of center...
Would this hingepin not be bottomed out at or near low point rather than 'precisely between the feet'?
I have always viewed this swing center being slightly left of center...
In every Golf Stroke, there is a Pivot Center (even when the Pivot is zeroed) and an Arm Swing Center. Respectively, these are the Head (or, if preferred, the 'Point-between-the-Shoulders') and the Left Shoulder.
The Pivot Center lies between the feet. The Low Point (of the Arm Swing) lies opposite the Left Shoulder.
I'm a newb with a stationary head question. Snead is mentioned many times in the thread, one of his traits is the so-called "squat" on the downswing. The "squat" move is now highlighted in Tiger swing analyses.
I wonder how the so-called squat doesn't lower the head vertically?
I accept that a head bob or sway is counterproductive, and would like some informed opinion.
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Great question too, Ill be interested in the answers you get. Lots of great players with squats. Although most didnt start from Impact Fix but rather some place a little higher up.
Id say that Tigers head was for sure dropping with that big squat. Especially with the driver. His radius, his left shoulder to ball distance was changing dynamically. Low point was lowering. But he doesnt establish his radius at Impact Fix.
Hogan got pretty close to Fix but had some squat. Lyn's got some squat.
Is a little squat a good thing? Can you squat and keep the radius properly measured?
I'm a newb with a stationary head question. Snead is mentioned many times in the thread, one of his traits is the so-called "squat" on the downswing. The "squat" move is now highlighted in Tiger swing analyses.
I wonder how the so-called squat doesn't lower the head vertically?
I accept that a head bob or sway is counterproductive, and would like some informed opinion.
Thanks
1. That squat move shows up in most players who can really bust the ball . . . forces DOWN into the ground and then push UP off the ground . . . like grabbing a rebound . . .
2. That move also helps you get the club coming down the face of the plane delaying the hip rotation
3. Eldrick may accentuate this move due to his set up. He sets up with his neck and back all straight and probably does this move some so he can get the ball focused with his eyes when he makes his down stroke.
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