Toe hits - cause?

[woodmo]

I have a long standing problem with toe hits and I know the usual suspects are too steep a swing plane and coming OTT. I was wondering what other possible causes there might be from a TGM perspective. Yesterday was magic, but today was more towards the toe for no apparent reason. My TGM hypothesis is that I am losing my right wrist a bit. Seems like when I really focused on PP#3, I had more lag and less toe hits. Any thoughts? Thanks.

[Hunter]

Woodmo,

Direct the #3 pp downward, OUTWARD and forward. All the way to the low point plane line.

Good Luck

[jim_0068]

It CAN BE an equiptment problem.....make sure to check your lie angles. My irons shafts were too weak and the toe would droop so much i'd hit it off the toe. Got them readjusted and not a problem anymore.

OR

If you don't keep your "tush line" as Brady Riggs would say. If your waist/lower body comes foward during the downswing you have to pull your arms in to compensate (brain does it automatically) and you'll hit it off the toe.

So make sure your lie angle is good and you aren't losing the line.

[Hunter]

Jim,

Right on. Lie angles probably too flat. Could also be a shaft problem, possible too flexible causing the shaft to bow toe down.

Woodmo, see your local Henry-Griffitts clubfitter.

[woodmo]

Thanks guys for the responses. Unfortuneately I don't think it is a lie problem with my clubs. I have had this problem off and on for years with numerous sets of clubs with different lies and different shafts. Most of it is a swing problem that comes from years of lifting my arms too steeply and coming down too steeply, but I also think I'm losing lag. I'll work on keeping PP#3 down and out and see if the tush line might be the problem. Thanks.

[strav]

Woodmo
I too have been plagued with toe hits. During practice, I remembered that Homer said most golfers have their right elbow too high at impact so I made an effort to bring the right elbow lower before impact. Not only did the contact improve but also the trajectory was higher and consequently my drives were longer. This may not be the cure for toe hits but I was happy with the results.

[RickPinewild]

As a general rule regarding club length. Toe hits = clubs to short. Heel hits = clubs too long.

[broberts5]

In my own experience, I find that if I have the butt of the club point inside the plane line when I start down I tend to miss on the toe. Setting the club so the butt of the club points at the plane line at start down, insures a down and outward direction of clubhead.

[EdZ]

Check your grip - most issues can be tracked back to the grip. Hard to give you specifics without seeing yours, but even very minor grip issues can have very major influences on the swing. Developing a 'grip routine' can help a lot.

[vjcapron]

is needed to strike the ball on the center of the clubface.

When the ball is struck on the heel of the clubface, divots tend to be very shallow, if they exist at all, indicating that the downswing had too much out and not enough downward force.

When the ball is struck on the toe of the clubface, divots tend to be too deep. This indicates that the downswing forces had too much downward and not enough outward force. This is your situation.

I would think that actively driving and directing the sweet spot of the clubhead with pressure point 3, the trigger finger, OUTWARD towards the inside quadrant of the ball will cure this.

I would give "heelers" similar advice, except I would change the last part of the sentence to read "DOWNWARD" towards the inside quadrant of the ball.