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View Poll Results: Why Did Ben Hogan's Right Foot 'Power Push' Create Extra Power?
1. It increased the 'lag and drag' in the Pivot Train. 29 24.37%
2. It enabled his Instant Acceleration Hip Action and 'Crank the Gyroscope' Drag Loading. 31 26.05%
3. It increased his ability to Thrust his Right Shoulder and thereby accelerate his Left Arm through Impact. 13 10.92%
4. It enabled him to get his Right Elbow further past the Ball during Release. 22 18.49%
5. It enabled a more vertical Straight Line Delivery Path and therefore a smaller Pulley Wheel for his Snap Release. 24 20.17%
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Old 03-02-2005, 01:32 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/mpgolf52/hogan.mpeg


After the stopping the action on this slo-mo film of Mr. Hogan. I voted for number five. His hands drop vertical to a low point that is still behind his right knee
Count me in on that one.
This Hogan stroke is not the one Homer studied in "Power Golf". This is the swing described in "5 Lessons".
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as i haven't seen either book, how do they differ?

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Old 03-02-2005, 10:15 PM
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It is from the Shell, but I have yet to see the video ( my bad). I snatched this from a golf forum years ago. I like it because it is slow motion FILM and you can see the club shaft and his hands. The swing in real time is typical Hogan FAST.


btw: I'm glad Lynn never wrote multiple choice tests when I was a student.
I don't know what the answer is . . .

However, I have had that video for a long time. The move Hogan put on the driver vs. the move he put on the short irons is distinctly different. With the driver his hands are deeper and the club dips past horizontal. With the short irons his hands don't get shoulder high (Top) and his finish is shoulder high (Top). In the tape he rips a divot with the 4 wood . . . Yoda's 5 downs confirmed.

Heck if I know . . . but I'm pickin 4.

I do know he was doing something different with the short clubs though.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:26 AM
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Choo, choo.....
It's #1. The other four are all a by-product of, or are made possible through the properties of #1. (6-M-1) Acceleration of a lagging Component willl cease at the instant it achieves an "In-Line" position with its immediately preceding Component." 'Centers and Accumulators can be sequenced, overlapped, omitted, emphasized, triggered and timed as the players understanding and skill permit. But the club's Swing Radius (6-B-0) ends at the "non-lagging" Component nearest to the Clubhead, The "Centers" of the Stroke start with the Feet or the employed Component nearest to the feet in the following order: Knees, Hips, Shoulders, Arms, Right Elbow, Left Wrist-cock and/or Left Hand Rotation." All so beautifully orchestrated to permit the educated hands to aim and direct the clubhead lag pressure via the right forearm and PP#3 toward the Angle of Approach quadrant of the ball or toward the aiming point.

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hcw,

I haven't seen "Power Golf", but it appears tp me that it was more of a pure Swing, rather than manipulated. Here's the old iron Swing -

http://www.megspace.com/sports/moeto...side_clip.html
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This is a total guess, but probably 2. I think Yoda is hinting that the right foot rises, not pushed off. The closest moving part is the hip, so the motion would be secondary to the hip motion.

Can't wait for the answer.
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Re: Choo, choo.....
Originally Posted by EC
It's #1. The other four are all a by-product of, or are made possible through the properties of #1. (6-M-1) Acceleration of a lagging Component willl cease at the instant it achieves an "In-Line" position with its immediately preceding Component." 'Centers and Accumulators can be sequenced, overlapped, omitted, emphasized, triggered and timed as the players understanding and skill permit. But the club's Swing Radius (6-B-0) ends at the "non-lagging" Component nearest to the Clubhead, The "Centers" of the Stroke start with the Feet or the employed Component nearest to the feet in the following order: Knees, Hips, Shoulders, Arms, Right Elbow, Left Wrist-cock and/or Left Hand Rotation." All so beautifully orchestrated to permit the educated hands to aim and direct the clubhead lag pressure via the right forearm and PP#3 toward the Angle of Approach quadrant of the ball or toward the aiming point.

EC
being somewhat in the middle of the aforementioned showdown on the "hip" side i went for #2, but i like this answer (to be honest, i wasn't sure what #1 meant)...maybe it will end up a "trick" question with #1 being what gets done and the rest being the different ways #1 is accomplished...yoda, when do we get the "correct" answer!?

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Yoda, when do we get the "correct" answer!?
Sunday!
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Re: The Answer Man Cometh
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Yoda, when do we get the "correct" answer!?
Sunday!
i'll be logging on early and often!
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Homer On Ben's Right Foot 'Push'
Why did Ben Hogan's Right Foot 'push' produce extra Power in his Stroke?

Because...

It enabled him to get his Right Elbow further past the Ball during Release!

The other four answers will indeed increase your ability to deliver Force to the Ball, but only this one was 'Homer's own.'

Congratulations to the 13 percent who got it right!
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But, am I wrong or did I read somewhere, perhaps a long time ago, that Hogan was double jointed, just like Garcia? And would that ability to create huge lag because of this also contribute to power?
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