Originally Posted by mb6606
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Yes I have stood in the plane board and although it does feel somewhat awkward one could certainly get used to it. I wonder if the turned shoulder plane has more to do with clubs. Most would need more upright lie angles for the TSP. Are most club lie angles designed for the elbow plane??
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Clubs can accommodate any Plane Angle Between the Elbow and the Upper Limits of the Turned Shoulder. IMHO, they have been more suitably designed for the Turned Shoulder Plane Angles.
Keep in Mind that the Turned Shoulder Plane Angle
varies per Club. The Elbow Plane does not. Overall the Plane Angles vary by only a few inches but it's the Alignments that are critical.
Therefore, your Driver Plane Angle will LOOK closer to an Elbow Plane and your Lob Wedge to a Square Shoulder Plane. (Actually, not that radical)
The ONLY best and insured way of having a reasonable Set-Up Routine and use the Turned Shoulder Plane for each Club in the Bag, is by adopting the Right Forearm Take-away as your Start-up Procedure. This Procedure immediately and unfailingly establishes the Turned Shoulder Plane.
The Right Forearm Take-away adjusts for each Plane angle by using
your-distance-from-the-Ball to establish the Plane Angle. Keep in Mind that The Right Wrist is Level at Address, which is an Alignment, which means that the Longer the Clubshaft, the farther out from your Body your hands are at address. And REMEMBER,
the Right Wrist is Flat and Level at Standard Address. Which makes it childs play to have an On-Plane right forearm at address.
The On-Plane Right Forearm at Address is on the same Plane as the Clubshaft at address. This is not the Turned Shoulder Plane, however this alignment (distance from the ball with this Alignment) establishes and
FORCES the "Magic of the Right Forearm" (with Extensor Action) to the Turned Shoulder's precise Plane Angle to use when tracing the Base Line of the Inclined Plane.
So, as your near the end of the Start-up Fanning procedure, each Club in your Bag will MEASURE a slightly different distance above ground when your Club first reaches parallel to the ground and parallel to the Plane-Line at the end of your Start-up. Shorter Clubs align Parallel to the ground and Parallel to the Base Line of the Inclined Plane Lower to the Ground. AND, it is this precise Alignment that establishes the CORRECT degree of Right Wrist Bend for each different club. The Shorter the Clubshaft the more bend because the Right Elbow Location is closer to the Body (below the right shoulder) and thus the Right Forearm is more vertical. The Driver has a WIDER Fan than a Wedge. The Longer the Club, the more left Wrist Bend at the Top of the Swing because there is less Right Wrist Bend. Learn this or else swing every club with the same degree of right wrist bend; clubshaft lean.
A 20 foot long Golf Club is not beyond the limit of a Turned Shoulder Plane, however it will look lower than the Elbow Plane and its Fan is three feet wide. Remember that the Right Shoulder (After a Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn)is a Reference point for the Plane Angle but it does not define the plane.
Using any other Procedure introduces too many obstacles that all can't be overcome. Too many to go into detail in this post. It's futile to Start a Swing with the Left Arm on the same Plane as the Right Forearm. Unless YOUR NAME IS MOE.
This system need to be learned from someone very knowledgeable with a trained eye. If you were that knowledgeable, you could do quite well with benches, string, mirrors and video.
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