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Old 12-12-2013, 04:48 PM
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What do u think of my snap release pretty deep not too many pieces of the puzsle left
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:32 PM
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:51 PM
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I was finally able to click fast enough at :02 to see your hands are at the zipper with the shaft still a bit above horizontal. This is better than any snap I've ever seen, including Charles Howell!
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:33 PM
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Snap Release. No.

I'm not judging. You may be a great player. I'm sure you enjoy learning, practicing, improving and playing.

You can swing however you want. But this isn't a Snap Release. So what. Why be so concerned?

Your Right Wrist Cock on the Elbow Plane is way Off Plane. You have developed "Outstanding Hand-Eye Coordination". Go with it.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:12 PM
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Youbare looking at the wrong video for snap you can't see anything but a blur in that video take a look at this sir......
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:19 PM
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Elbow Planes are Random Sweep Releases. Circle Path Deliveries (Zero Pivot) are Sweep Releases and Turned Shoulder Plane / Straight Line Delivery Paths are Snap Releases.

Delivery Path and Release Type are Paired.

Ocean - Water
Desert - Sand
Elbow Plane - Random Sweep Release
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Old 01-08-2014, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Elbow Planes are Random Sweep Releases. Circle Path Deliveries (Zero Pivot) are Sweep Releases and Turned Shoulder Plane / Straight Line Delivery Paths are Snap Releases.

Delivery Path and Release Type are Paired.

Ocean - Water
Desert - Sand
Elbow Plane - Random Sweep Release
uhhh why can't you have a snap release on an elbow plane?
are you saying that I am on the elbow plane and therefore not snap releasing?
if so, how do you know I am on the elbow plane?


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Snap Release. No.
take a look at this sir....







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Old 01-08-2014, 06:20 AM
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[quote=whip;95456] how do you know I am on the elbow plane?


Isn't it obvious?

Standard Pivot, Torso Takeaway and backstroke, #2 PP (you don't use the #3 PP), Hands and Right Forearm and Shaft completely Off-Plane at the End of your Backstroke. They are aligned to completely different Planes. Elbow Jammed into your Side at Release. Not to mention cocking and Uncocking your Right Wrist, Swiveling Impact, Clubhead Throwaway, Ball in the Middle of your Stance (6 inches behind Low-Point). I wouldn't qualify you for any Plane, but you're closest to the Elbow Plane. Nothing wrong with the Elbow Plane.

You don't know how to Pivot. Hip Action. But you get it done. Tremendous effort. You Can't Play the Ball at Low-Point because your Pivot won't take you there. Your Pivot refuses to take your Right Shoulder forward; only outward.

Compensations... Everything you do is based on getting your "Swivel" to work. There's no Hinge Action, no Flying Wedges, No 90 degree Alignment. You do it the Hard Way.

Other than that. You have a very Physical Swing. Strong. Wonderfully developed Hand-eye coordination. Very poor Pivot. The makings of a very good Ball-Striker.

You're missing some very basic information. The very basic, fundamental alignments allude you. You haven't had any guidance.

Your efforts have not been wasted.

You need to understand a very basic alignment. You're going to fight this. You will struggle but hopefully you'll learn.

Get two pencils. Tape one across the inside of your right wrist and the other across the inside of your right elbow joint. At the very minimum, at Release and Impact, they should be parallel (as of now, in your latest video, they are at 90 degrees to one another). Start at Release and drill to Impact.
  1. Move the ball to low-point
  2. Set your club at Impact
  3. Take your grip with your right hand FIRST, with your right forearm on-plane (Turn your shoulders toward the Target to get your right forearm on-plane). This will feel very unusual for you.
  4. Make sure the pencils are parallel (I know, it's very unusual for you)
  5. Align the Clubface (don't ask. This is TGM. Hinge Action controls the Clubface)
  6. Lastly, take your Left Hand Grip


You will need to make a lot of swing adjustments to make this happen but this is how you hit the ball. You will get rid of most of your compensations and you will force your pivot to work correctly.

Watch videos of the Pros. Imagine the Pencils taped in place. The vast majority of them will have parallel pencils at impact or almost, because they use a Hinge Action. They don't Swivel. Right Forearm ON-PLANE at Impact (hopefully at release and at the Top of your Backswing. Actually, hopefully Always.)

You won't understand the Right Forearm On-Plane. Certainly you'll visualize the Forearm On-Plane at Impact, but you won't understand how it can be On-Plane throughout the Swing. This is what "Plane Line Tracing" teaches.

Hinge Action controls the Clubface Alignment through the Impact Interval. Hinge Action is a "Mechanic". A "Mechanic" is a Force and Alignment pair. Hinge Action is created by a group of alignments supported by an On-Plane Force.
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Old 01-08-2014, 08:39 AM
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you are saying this isn't a snap release?...it's ok...



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Old 01-08-2014, 10:54 AM
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